dashboard/instruments panel rebuild
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dashboard/instruments panel rebuild
I am about to rebluid my dashboard and I have a lot of questions to ask because I don't know how it should be in original Paso.
Let's have a look....
1) First question: how is the panel (#42) fixed to the dashboard? Mine is not original and it's glued to piece #31...
2) 5 plastic clips should join transparent protection #31 to the dashboard, but in my case 3 of them are broken. Does anyone know a good solution to fix this problem? I thought about using a couple of screws or just some glue...
3) Silent blocks #36 are broken and original parts seems quite expensive in Ducati (6€ each...). I found similar parts, with the same thread but with a larger diameter and 3mm higher. Do you think they are ok?
4) Should the whole assemply #25 be sealed with transparent protection #31? Or should it let a little air-flow?
5) Do you know a way to clean the printed circuit #41? It seems a little rusty...
Here is a photo:
1 is an example of a broken clip of protection #1
2 is the glue used to fix panel #42
I will post more questions when I will take some pictures.
Many thanks to all!!!
Let's have a look....
1) First question: how is the panel (#42) fixed to the dashboard? Mine is not original and it's glued to piece #31...
2) 5 plastic clips should join transparent protection #31 to the dashboard, but in my case 3 of them are broken. Does anyone know a good solution to fix this problem? I thought about using a couple of screws or just some glue...
3) Silent blocks #36 are broken and original parts seems quite expensive in Ducati (6€ each...). I found similar parts, with the same thread but with a larger diameter and 3mm higher. Do you think they are ok?
4) Should the whole assemply #25 be sealed with transparent protection #31? Or should it let a little air-flow?
5) Do you know a way to clean the printed circuit #41? It seems a little rusty...
Here is a photo:
1 is an example of a broken clip of protection #1
2 is the glue used to fix panel #42
I will post more questions when I will take some pictures.
Many thanks to all!!!
- streetsurfer
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1. My panel (black foam) was glued, from factory, to the dash base with what appears by color and feel to be weatherstrip adhesive, the yellow elephant snot (what it is often called here).
2. I noticed two or three of mine cracked at the tab that holds it on when I went to polish the haze on the inside off, and change broken isolators. I glued them with a dab of epoxy.
3. Not sure. I found the original duc isolators not expensive by me.
4. I had mine off to polish it inside and out as it had a water staining from condensation or something on the inside. I did not seal it. Just the glue on the few cracked tab ends. And it must not have been sealed from factory, because I don't recall having a difficult time removing it.
5. Try a rubber pencil eraser on the circuit board.
6. A tip while you have it out... Look for bulbs with a higher wattage for the turn indicators in the dash. It will make them a bit easier to see in daylight. Not much, but some. I went to a stereo repair shop after contacting Osram and showed them what came out and they fixed me up with brighter ones.
2. I noticed two or three of mine cracked at the tab that holds it on when I went to polish the haze on the inside off, and change broken isolators. I glued them with a dab of epoxy.
3. Not sure. I found the original duc isolators not expensive by me.
4. I had mine off to polish it inside and out as it had a water staining from condensation or something on the inside. I did not seal it. Just the glue on the few cracked tab ends. And it must not have been sealed from factory, because I don't recall having a difficult time removing it.
5. Try a rubber pencil eraser on the circuit board.
6. A tip while you have it out... Look for bulbs with a higher wattage for the turn indicators in the dash. It will make them a bit easier to see in daylight. Not much, but some. I went to a stereo repair shop after contacting Osram and showed them what came out and they fixed me up with brighter ones.
- Desmo_Demon
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I'll probably repeat some of what Streetsurfer stated, but here's my list....
1) Mine was glued and reglued, and reglued again. I have not reinstalled it, yet, but I'm thinking of using a clear silicone sealant.
2) I think new lenes are still available through Ducati, and if I remember correctly, it wasn't too expensive.....$15-$25 USD. I have two broken clips on mine. It has been stated that dust and dirt can easily get into the dash through this lens, so I'm thinking about using a thin bead of clear silicone to seal it to the dash, but have it in a way that I can easily cut it loose if I need to take it back off, again. The previous owner of my bike had wrapped the whole thing with black electrical tape...
3) Those vibration dampners are expensive. My local dealer was wanting $16 USD EACH! I found a source for a substitute, but you need to trim the stud that goes into the dash. You could use washers, but it would push your dash about 1/8" further out toward you. Here's what I wrote previously...
4) I believe it just clips onto the dash and is not weather/water proof. I answered in #2 that I am thinking of sealing mine with clear silicone sealant to prevent dirt and water from getting into it.
5) I used a pen eraser (more abrasive than a pensil eraser) to clean mine. It is a little difficult to clean, as the circuitboard is a bit filmsy. Here is a comparison of before and after...
1) Mine was glued and reglued, and reglued again. I have not reinstalled it, yet, but I'm thinking of using a clear silicone sealant.
2) I think new lenes are still available through Ducati, and if I remember correctly, it wasn't too expensive.....$15-$25 USD. I have two broken clips on mine. It has been stated that dust and dirt can easily get into the dash through this lens, so I'm thinking about using a thin bead of clear silicone to seal it to the dash, but have it in a way that I can easily cut it loose if I need to take it back off, again. The previous owner of my bike had wrapped the whole thing with black electrical tape...
3) Those vibration dampners are expensive. My local dealer was wanting $16 USD EACH! I found a source for a substitute, but you need to trim the stud that goes into the dash. You could use washers, but it would push your dash about 1/8" further out toward you. Here's what I wrote previously...
I don't know what their shipping is to other parts of the country, but here is their main website... http://www.mcmaster.comPublic Service Announcement - For future reference, the vibration dampening mounts for the instrument cluster have an M4x.70 thread with each thread section being 3/8" long and the rubber section 3/8" in diameter and 3/8" in length. I surfed through McMaster-Carr's catalog and the M4x0.7 with the same sized rubber or neoprene section but 1/2" threaded sections are Part #9376K111 and $1.50 each. This means that you can buy this part MUCH cheaper than the OEM, but you will have to cut 1/8" off of the threaded section that will go into the instrument cluster so you don't break the housing (it is a blind hole). I hope this helps save someone a few bucks in the future.
4) I believe it just clips onto the dash and is not weather/water proof. I answered in #2 that I am thinking of sealing mine with clear silicone sealant to prevent dirt and water from getting into it.
5) I used a pen eraser (more abrasive than a pensil eraser) to clean mine. It is a little difficult to clean, as the circuitboard is a bit filmsy. Here is a comparison of before and after...
Last edited by Desmo_Demon on Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:58 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- streetsurfer
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I have a good idea for the clear sealant. There is a product called SEASONSeal removable weather stripping by White Lightning. It comes in a standard caulk tube, and can be removed after applied. It lifts up in a continous string when removed and is not sticky. It's adhesiveness or is it adhesiion to itself is greater than it's adhesion to what you apply it too. Of course it contains some evaporative solvents so I would test it on plastics of simillar type before putting on the gauge cluster. I think it might be worth experimenting with to avoid a permanant seal which may cause damage upon future removal of the lens. I find it at Menards and use it on storm windows and doors. I am sure you have seen a similar product on mailings or post cards where a flap is sealed or attached by a flexible gummy substance. That's about what it looks like, but a bit tougher.
Good point on the pen eraser also.
Good point on the pen eraser also.
- persempre907
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Unfortunately, the lenses are no longer available. I went at my nearest dealer asking for .Desmo_Demon wrote:I think new lenes are still available through Ducati, and if I remember correctly, it wasn't too expensive.....$15-$25 USD.
Later, I bought a whole brand new dashboard on the web!!!
Ciao
Francesco
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That lense have been out of shops at least 5 years. 907 microfilm have number for that, but 750 dont have.
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I ordered a lens to Ducati Roma (Via Appia Nuova) because into their web system the lenses appeared still available. The price was quite cheap (it seems to me about 12 €.).
Later, they told me the lenses were no longer available .
Ciao
Later, they told me the lenses were no longer available .
Ciao
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Francesco
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Thanks, Francesco.
To all: here are a comparison between the original silent block (part #36, on the left) and the replacement I found (on the right).
Here in Italy, the original part seems to cost 6€, the other one is made by ARIETE and costs about 3€, but it seems more tough, although it's higher.
To all: here are a comparison between the original silent block (part #36, on the left) and the replacement I found (on the right).
Here in Italy, the original part seems to cost 6€, the other one is made by ARIETE and costs about 3€, but it seems more tough, although it's higher.
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I have another question about the odometer cable. I can't find it on the parts catalogue and I don't know how it should be.
Mine is here:
It seems a unique block.
I mean: all the parts in the picture seem blocked as one piece, and it turns as a uinque piece, too.
I expected that only the knob should turn, while the external, threaded part should stay firm...
Can you help me?
Mine is here:
It seems a unique block.
I mean: all the parts in the picture seem blocked as one piece, and it turns as a uinque piece, too.
I expected that only the knob should turn, while the external, threaded part should stay firm...
Can you help me?
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If You buy speedometer, then You get also this knob system! Btw, very special thread in that knob nut. I tried to find such from my knob/potentiometer collection (very many ones!) and didnt find right threaded nut....
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Paso 750 -89 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red
2xST4S -02 red/metal grey
ST2 -01 red/metal grey
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