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Got it !!! :cool:

Had to ride it home today, in fact rode it for the first time! 137 miles!
What a completly differant ride, its great. :cool:

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Where should the rear indicators be? On each side of the rear light lens, had this lens off tonight but it is a one peice unit all red and no orange lens sections.
The indicators at the moment are mounted on the rear mud guard, stick out a mile and bonce all over the place.

Noticed in the gallery that most would appear to be built in to the rear lens
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Re: New Bike!

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motiztab wrote:Got it !!! :cool:

Had to ride it home today, in fact rode it for the first time! 137 miles!
What a completly differant ride, its great. :cool:

Question

Where should the rear indicators be? On each side of the rear light lens, had this lens off tonight but it is a one peice unit all red and no orange lens sections.
The indicators at the moment are mounted on the rear mud guard, stick out a mile and bonce all over the place.

Noticed in the gallery that most would appear to be built in to the rear lens
there are two different versions of the rear indicators. the USA versions had indicators on stalks, the non-usa models had them integrated into the taillamp with amber outer and red inner lenses.

modified USA version on the bike on the right

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non-usa version in this picture

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I should add that the taillights are no longer in production so conversion from USA to euro requires you to find one used, and they're starting to fetch some pretty good prices.
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Mike

Thank for that info. I must admit that i perfer the looks of the non USA spec rear lens.

however mine looks like your US Spec bike apart from mine has a black grab handle and its blue.

Another question

When the clutch is let out, unless a small amount of revs is used it makes a screaming sound. The only way not to make the noise is to slip the clutch with the result of a very slow take off.

Any ideas anybody?
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motiztab wrote:Mike

Thank for that info. I must admit that i perfer the looks of the non USA spec rear lens.

however mine looks like your US Spec bike apart from mine has a black grab handle and its blue.

Another question

When the clutch is let out, unless a small amount of revs is used it makes a screaming sound. The only way not to make the noise is to slip the clutch with the result of a very slow take off.

Any ideas anybody?
welcome to ducati dry clutch ownership :thumbup:
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Yep.

A couple of years ago I had my motor taken apart for some gearbox work. When I put the motor back in, I found the clutch making the screaming noise, although not very loud, on engagement. I took the bike back to the mechanic, who is a mate, and watched as he fixed it in a couple of minutes.

All he did was take the plates off, then put them back on, but very carefully, examining each one, and making sure it mated properly with the ones next to it. My clutch then worked perfectly, and it still does. It makes no noise, and is dead smooth, with quick. and progressive engagement.

Later today I'll talk to him, and see if he can remember what he did a couple of years ago.
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Well, chaps, I've just had a chat with my mechanic mate, and unfortunately he cannot remember exactly what he did. He said there had been several bulletins sent out to workshops years ago about Ducati clutches re correct sequence and facing of the plates - although he's a BMW mechanic he had read them - and at that time they were fresher in his mind. (In fact he may have done this work for me four or five years ago.)

I can remember myself reading more recently on the web about putting the plates in the correct sequence and the right way round. I think there is no doubt that if you get it right (and there my be some trial-and-error work involved) it can make a big difference. Sorry, I can't remember where I read this stuff, but I have a feeling it may have been an Australian website. 'Seek and ye shall find, and verily thy clutch shall be at peace!'
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Thanks for the replys

Mike

Dry clutch?

Sorry if i sound a bit dumb here but are these clutch's dry as per cars and not wet as per my Triumph and other bikes?

I remember years ago being told to aline the right plates when replacing clutchs, think that was about the Triumph T120's

As i have a factory manual got it with the bike i will have to have a read.

I should add that the bike has not been used of a year.
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Yep, dry clutches have no oil in them. Which is OK by me - I know in my gut that oil is a wierd thing to have in a clutch.

Also, I think it's worth seeing if a bit of work improves the clutch, although it does sound like it might need looking at.

Well, chaps, I sought but I did not find. I spend a considerable portion of the day trying to find that illusive website which explained exactly how to order the plates. I found a few interesting items, including http://www.cd-rom.org/faqs.cfm and http://doc.rz.ifi.lmu.de/FAQ/motorcycles/QuackFAQ (note 15) and one by our very own Gerhard, http://www.users.waitrose.com/~paso/pasolist.htm#Clutch Replacement. These items did indicate that close attention is critical in ordering the plates, but none of them went into the detail I seem to remember.

I'll keep looking for that site I remember from about a year ago, but after today I'm not hopeful. I hate to admit it, but I suppose it's even possible that I imagined it. I think we may have to go to Ducati and request the clutch installation bulletins they sent out to dealers ten or so years ago.
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Just a quick up date on that noisy clutch.
Well in my home town we have a Ducati Specialist by the name of Two-Four Italia. (http://www.two-our-italia.co.uk) Anyway had a chat and they said it would be worth pulling the clutch giving it a bit of a clean and try it.
Well thats what i did, pulled all the plates out cleaned them down with Brake Cleaner and put them back in as per these instructions http://www.users.waitrose.com/~paso/pasolist.htm#Clutch. It worked!

Well that sorted the clutch now I have another question.
I cannot always select first gear when slowing to stop, just seams to not want to get any further down teh box than second. Is it me? Is it Ducati Gearbox or is mine **** ?

Apart from that really getting into riding this as it is just so differant than the Triumph.
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I'm glad the clutch is good now.

Re selecting first, have a look at the topic 'Can't up-shift from 2nd ...' in the 907ie Forum. A similar approach might help.

The Paso needs a firm hand in the corners - then you can be confident.
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Try bleeding the clutch. Then bleed it some more.

This might help.
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Yep, the clutch might need bleeding.

When the clutch is working properly, you should be able, with the bike on the centre stand and in second gear, to pull the clutch in with your left hand and turn the back wheel with the little finger of your right hand.
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