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Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:27 am
by amac
Hi Guys.Iam New to this site so i hope someone can help me.I have just aquired my freinds 88 paso 750 and am trying to reserect it.
i have done the fuel lines ,flushed the tank ,new battery new starter solonoid,but no go just a single click.Any comments would be good. thanks

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 2:55 pm
by paso750
I made this some time ago maybe it helps.
https://www.box.com/s/t17x7fsfe60c7hz5hhtn

G.

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:52 pm
by delagem
Did the bike run when he stored it?

Try this: Put the bike on its center stand. Take the spark plugs out. Place the bike in gear. Turn the tire, this should cause the engine to turn over. It isn't easy to do, but it should turn with the force of one hand.

If the engine turns over, you've got a problem with your solenoid or starter. (the "click" indicates your button and wiring to the solenoid are ok). Try shorting a screwdriver across your solenoid large terminals. Be careful, there will be sparks, and whatever you use to short the terminals will get hot. Wear gloves. If shorting the solenoid causes the engine to turn over, you've got a bad solenoid. If not, the starter is suspect.

If the engine doesn't turn over, you've got a mechanical issue. Possible causes: rings stuck in cylinder bores, engine crankcase full of fuel from leaky carbs (hydrolocked), or mechanical failure.

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:26 pm
by englishstiv
Be Careful ....How old are those belts?

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:51 pm
by ducinthebay
You have done nothing wrong yet.

Yeah, check to see that the motor turns over first. Even a good starter won't turn over a stuck motor.

Pull the plugs, squirt in a bit of oil, and turn the motor over to coat the cylinder walls. This will help boost compression until it starts. A dry cylinder doesn't have a lot of compression.

Put in some fresh plugs. Champions are pretty good and low cost.

If it hasn't moved in a while, you should confirm that the clutch will disengage. A dry clutch can take in moisture and rust the whole thing together. Put it in gear, pull in the clutch, and push the bike to break the pack loose. In the worst case, you have to just pull off the cover, and loosen the 6 screws, loosen up the pack and re-assemble.

Cheers, Phil

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:13 am
by scimmione
paso750 wrote:I made this some time ago maybe it helps.
https://www.box.com/s/t17x7fsfe60c7hz5hhtn

G.
Heilige Scheiße! I think I had a little stroke when I opened that up! :wacko:

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:32 pm
by 907pasonut
scimmione wrote:
paso750 wrote:I made this some time ago maybe it helps.
https://www.box.com/s/t17x7fsfe60c7hz5hhtn

G.
Heilige Scheiße! I think I had a little stroke when I opened that up! :wacko:
I think this is a good diagram that everybody can understand...and would have taken a while to put down on paper :thumbup:

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:21 am
by amac
Thanks to everyone for your responses and help.
See how we go
Thanks
Andrew :D :thumbup:

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:20 am
by paso750
Keep us posted.
I`ve never got a feedback to the file I created about 2 years ago. I was tired at that time that the same questions were constantly repeating :-P If it ever helped anyone I don`t know.

G.

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:28 pm
by 20YearOwner
Check the side stand for a bad safety switch.

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:14 am
by paso750
Good point but according to the wiring plan the side stand switch on the Paso only opens/closes a ground connection for the warning light.

G.

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:19 am
by amac
Thanks For Alot of tips.
Have taken the plugs out and can turn the rear wheel in gear reasonably but its not so easy as one of suggested.So i am guessing now its starter motor,but am open to more ideas.
Thanks Andrew :thumbup: :cool:

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:50 am
by ducinthebay
Put a few squirts of oil in each cylinder and leave the plugs out while you get the starter to turn over. Spinning the motor at a reasonable speed will help get oil up into the heads where it hasn't been for a few years. Once you get it all spinning freely, then put the plugs back in.

Are you getting voltage to the starter when you push the button?

Cheers, Phil

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:42 pm
by delagem
amac wrote:Thanks For Alot of tips.
Have taken the plugs out and can turn the rear wheel in gear reasonably but its not so easy as one of suggested.So i am guessing now its starter motor,but am open to more ideas.
Thanks Andrew :thumbup: :cool:
You're certain you've got a good battery, with good clean, tight connections?

Did you try shorting the large lugs on the solenoid with a screwdriver? I know you say you installed a new solenoid, but I've had new ones that were dead.

Another test: Try using jumper cables from a non running car. Try using them like normal, with one to the battery + and one to a good frame/engine ground.

If that doesn't work, take the + terminal direct to the starter. Occasionally the wiring itself is bad.

Be very careful mucking around with jumper cables. It's easy to hook them up wrong, and the damage that can be caused is bad.

Re: Unstarted paso 750 Help

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:52 pm
by scimmione
Are you getting a spark at all? After letting my Paso sit for 3yrs, the inductive pick-ups went bad. It did everything it should when I pressed the starter but start. It did pop occasionally when trying to start: The coils tested good but no consistent spark.

Hope that helps. :)