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 Post subject: Mc Tools new bike
PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:15 pm 
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Yahoo I won the auction , Ive wanted an RD since I was a kid
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Arrived from Chch on the bike transporter monday night , went for a ride tuesday morn ( as soon as Dianne had left for work ..... she dont like me riding bikes any more :( , cant say as I blame her ) and ..... well......
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Still havn't found the wrist pin
Havn't had much luck with bikes lately :( :( :( :( :(

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:22 pm 
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Hamish,

Yes it is always "buyer beware" on the auction site. But this must have been an existing defect, although not quite at the stage shown. Perhaps that was the reason for selling, the initial signs of impending self destruction were begining to show.

Anyhow, the bike still looks very smart and they can take a huge level of mistreatment, normally. Have done many laps of Manfield, in my youth, aboard a RD which was a parts special (one good one made from 4) and was repeatedly flogged, but always survived.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:11 pm 
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when was the last time the engine ran and the bike was on the street ?
Seeing rust in the cylinder and on the crankshaft it looks as if the engine was dry, the piston seized and the conrod punched a hole into it after the piston bearing fell apart.
Was it in long storage and did you check it before your ride ? Looks like a full engine rebuild lies ahead. :?
You should definetely have a talk with the seller.

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PS: the RD is a two stroke, isn`t it ? Do you have to mix the gasoline/oil mixture or does it have an oil tank ?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:24 pm 
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As soon as I got to the end on my driveway (800m) I knew it wasn't right, sounded flat and was down on power , now there's a thing , I have never ridden one of these so how would I know , but you just do, wasn't right. But I did intend to give it a full resto job and by riding it home I have munched the rh cylinder and I got another one of them for a hundred bucks so Im really only out that hundy . Im having a bit of fun with the seller tho ( he he he ) e-mails about consumer garantees act and dispute tribunals etc ,she will be wishin she had a doberman hangin off her arse when get finished with her. I dont really expect to get anywhere with her but its fun puttin the shits up her . As Fraser sez its Buyer beware , and what I really wanted was a tidy COMPLETE bike and I got that ................ was a good bang tho :) .... full noise and just passing thru 130 km/h on my way to the ton and kafuckenboom , broke the world record for the quickest clutch grab , . Cant help but wonder what all the cars (drivers )I had just passed were thinking as they filed past :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:42 pm 
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paso750 wrote:
when was the last time the engine ran and the bike was on the street ?
Seeing rust in the cylinder and on the crankshaft it looks as if the engine was dry, the piston seized and the conrod punched a hole into it after the piston bearing fell apart.
Was it in long storage and did you check it before your ride ? Looks like a full engine rebuild lies ahead. :?
You should definetely have a talk with the seller.

G.

PS: the RD is a two stroke, isn`t it ? Do you have to mix the gasoline/oil mixture or does it have an oil tank ?

the seller was a bit vague about the recent use bit and I think that the thing had sat for a while ( hindsight is a great thing ) petrol smells a bit suss , I think it may be stale . Rust is from the cylinder studs and fell in when I took the pot off. I bought it unseen ( it was 300 miles away) ,looked at the pix and saw it was complete and that was enough for me.
The other pot is ok ( got me home ) and I have checked/tested the oil pump ( yes G , its autolube ) and its working , but someone has fitted pod filters and left the standard jetting which is a nono. I think that either the seller didnt use it much and what she ( fucken bitch :lol: ) did do was fairly sedate ( she's 50 ). It was quite happy to potter round at 3-4 grand but as soon as I opened the tap it was reluctant to do much more.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 9:13 am 
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What do we learn? A vehicle with unknown service or other history should at least get basic maintainance like fluids and filters changed and not be ridden right away. I`m just guessing it went like this.
I had a similar experience once with a scooter off ebay. Luckily nothing broke though.
In your case you`ll need to split the engine to get all metal particles and the pins from the bearing out which may stick is some oil sludge.
Your wife will be happy you`re working on the bike and not riding it ;)


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paso750 wrote:
Your wife will be happy you`re working on the bike and not riding it ;)

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You'll have to work a lot on that engine :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
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Mc tool wrote:
paso750 wrote:
( fucken bitch :lol: )



Haha.

'put the shits up her'

Is that English? :beer:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:43 am 
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stale gas and mucked up oiler=instant melt down


gonna need a crank most likely...If you are lucky( Mctool lucky :lol: :lol: ) you can save the crank

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:26 pm 
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Haha.

'put the shits up her'

Is that English? :beer:


thats english downunder style...giving her the shits :lol:
geezees Mc tool you've done a good job on that motor...on closer inspection, that engine is as dry as a dead dingo's donger, the conrod and bearing have no oil on them :beer:

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I had to ride it home after it chundered ( a few k's) so it was getting pretty dry by then. Aint done much about it except gather up a pile of parts, just need the con rod kits and brake caliper kits and I'll be right out of excuses :)

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I can say from personal experience that that bike is well worth fixing. The damage is not as bad as you would think.

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Here are a couple of sites that you may find helpful.
http://www.2strokeworld.com/forum/index.php
http://www.usa2strokers.com/forum/default.asp


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:45 pm 
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a can of motor oil thrown in the tank could have saved you the trouble.....

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:37 am 
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What happened is the previous owner had removed the whole air box assy and fitted a pair of pod filters ( and she was a big fat ole slut who only ever putted round and told lies :mad: ) but left the standard main jets in ( 145's ) instead of also fitting the required 180-220 mains , and when I tried for the land speed record it chundered , and in hindsight it wasn't right and I shouldn't have caned it , found out about the jets later , and as you say maico88 it aint that big a deal . I was intending .... even before I found the bike, to do a complete engine rebuild so the only thing its cost me is a 1st over (.25mm ) RH cylinder ( which I got for 50 bucks). I have bought a shit load of stuff off e-bay and am going to do a ground up rebuild........soon ...............one day

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:07 pm 
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The wrist pin is in your exhaust. (i'm guessing)

Lean till it seized, then it all went bad from there.

Cheers, Phil

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