Replacement CPU

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Replacement CPU

Post by Timbo »

Hello to you all in cyber space....
Can anyone help Im after a replacement CPU P7 either new or second hand.
The problem with my Duc ( so my mechanic tells me) seems to be fuel injection which is regulated from the CPU :mad:
Does anyone have one? or can tell me where to buy one from.
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Post by ducwad »

I have no experience with these. I've just been keeping the link around. It seems to me, though, that this might help you as they have a P7/P8 product.

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Replacement CPU

Post by Timbo »

Ducwad
Many thanks,have been on the web page its $650 Autralian dollars which converts to £260.00p for a replacement CPU.Not that bad really but Ill keep looking.............
If I cant find anything else Ill have to part with my hard earned cash(a small price to pay to keep my Duc on the road)
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Post by persempre907 »

Timbo,
is your problem in the ECU or in the injectors?
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Post by keepsdad »

well, i tell you what.
not a pleasant thought to have to purchase one but it is extremely reassuring to know that if you have to, you can purchase one.

otherwise, i guess you just wind up with a paso paperweight.

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Post by ved »

hi,

ford had used the p8 in the sierra. but there are different generations.

the car-version has no co2-screw, 4 power-amps and a different eprom.
co2-srew is only a potentiometer and the eprom use a socket.
the 2 mor amps shouldn´t care.

may this info is useful for you.
Timbo

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Post by Timbo »

Hello
Thanks for replies guys..
Franceco the problem is with the CPU not injectors they re working, fine whats happening the petrol is not injected at the same time of the spark.This is causing a kick back on engine due to valves being open ??????.
All timing,electrics, plugs etc are fine.
The Eprom is also fine, fault believed to be within electrical circuit of CPU.
I have found (via Ducati Owners Club GB) a company in England called Correction Injection who hopefully can help.
Many thanks
Stay safe
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Post by persempre907 »

This is a good thing.
I think would be easy for an electronic expert fixing the ECU, considering also the eprom is working.
It's a pity Antti (Finnpaso) is now cooking in the sun of the Red Sea.
For sure, he could tell us something.
No matter, I think the company will help you.
If they will not be able, let us know.
Someone of us has surely another ECU for spare part (I also have one).
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Post by persempre907 »

Timbo,
now on eBay there are two auctions for the 851's ECU (that also has the P7 = IAW043).
http://cgi.ebay.it/DUCATI-851-Steuerger ... dZViewItem
and
http://cgi.ebay.it/RECHNER-DUCATI-851sp ... dZViewItem
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Post by Timbo »

Francesco
Thanks for repy,Ill keep watching them.There's also a 851/888 on ebay in UK valued at £131.00p.....its got about 3days left.
Antti in a country that is sunny+ hot it doesnt bear thinking about!!!!! :confused:
I dont think he's at his best unless the temp is 0 degrees or lower :funny: :funny: :funny:
Ill let you know how I get on.
Cheers :thumbup:
Timbo
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Post by Rockwellman »

Hi I have a spare Merilli ecu from a 91 H Reg 906 if that's any use to you? I am looking for the integrated indicator lenses? Thanks Michael
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Post by Timbo »

Hello
Michael and welcome to our forum. :thumbup:
Thanks for reply but as far as Im aware the 906 CPU is not compatible for the 907 something to do with injection side of things which is the very problem I have :mad: :mad:
Ive just looked on e-bay and there 907 indicator lenses up for auction perhaps this might help you....
Many thanks again
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Post by Finnpaso »

Sorry, Timbo, that i havent time for reading hole story, BUT if U need P7 ECU, i know, that they have that in offer just now in Ducati/Italy:

Ordering number: 28610071A Centralina IAW 043 (07) 851 Superbike biposto 91/92. I think, just same ECU, as in 907, but with 851 Eprom, so propably this will fit also to 907IE by changing only Eprom, what is very simple job....

Btw, normal price seems to be 868€, but in offer 104,66€, so its not so bad investment for future to buy one for "spare parts"... :evil:
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Post by persempre907 »

Antti,
do you think the ECU might be repaired by a good electrician?
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Post by Finnpaso »

That P7 ECU have plenty of very small "surface mount" components, so need to have very small weldering tools and surely also magnifying glass with good light, so its not anymore "simple job" for normal "home electricians"... :evil: I know, that some ECUs have been fixed by some TV/radio maintainers, but its not anymore work, what U can do at home. So, if U find such maintainer, U can ask, can he do that. Anyway its not so simple, cause i havent seen anywhere shematic about P7... :evil: Without shema and understand, how ECU function, its very hard job to evrybody.... :confused: Good point is, that MOST of those problems are caused by "cold weldings" in circuit board and if You look carefully surface with magnifying glass and good light, u can notice, what weldings can be cold ones. Surely U have to check also first that big connector of ECU, that there is not cold weldings/broken wires. I have lookeed sometimes close my P7 spare ECU and seems, that its very well coated with clearcoat against air/moisture, what causes plenty of harm in circuit boards. That Marelli (906) ECU i havent seem so close, but it can be harder to open and fix. I know, that just that P7/P8 is very good ECU, so i am wondering, if there is some COMPONENT broken. Surely it can also be reason for wrong function, but before that i would check all other components in injection system.

Btw, Have You guys maintained Your injectors ever???? They also need maintaining, cause there is also one small filter, what You cant change at home. Not so bad idea to maintain injectors every 40 000kms, or so. Its not so expensive in such carburetor/injection maintainer. I have done that one time and i was satisfied, what they did. :thumbup:
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