Caveat emptor "Let the buyer beware". Clutch drum

[Laddie907]

Grrr....

after 3 years of having a nice smooth clutch operation it started to feel a bit weak in the springs these last few weeks...but not slipping yet.
I pulled the cover for the first time today - thinking it would be a simple plates & springs replacement.

WRONG!!!

The clutch drum was missing a spring & screw assembly post.
there were only 5 out of the set of six - the post is broken off and gone..

It mofo that sold me the bike MUST have known this.
There is no way the spring and screw and post have evaporated - even the cover has no sign of internal damage. (although my guess is that they tried to use the post as a lever point to unscrew the drum.

...just having a bitch before i repair it.

since buying the bike i have had to shell out heaps ($4K) for various faults that were not apparent on a 10 minute spin around for a test ride.
the clutch was the final straw; what an asshole.
I can't believe that anyone would sell a bike - or put it back together - knowing it was like that.

thanks for your sympathy...

[englishstiv]

I feel your pain bro'

[jcslocum]

That really stinks....

You can run it with fewer springs. That is if you're not having slipping issues.

[Kurt]

I, too, feel your pain and can relate to the "surprises" that unfold as you get to know the bike that "needed nothing" (HaHa), but after 6 months, it's just about ready ... and just a few more weeks (8? 10?) til riding weather arrives

[higgy]

I as well feel your pain,but...........It took you 3 years to find it? whatcha bitchin about? 4k in repairs? on a bike worth what maybe 3k on a good day
Oh laddieboy,ya kill me

[samandkimberly]

I feel your pain; I had to spend a lot of money to get my supposedly "needs no work" 907 together last year.

But do remember that there are just as many mechanically clueless owners with mofo mechanics as there are mofo owners. I have no doubt that the guy I bought the bike from just didn't have a clue.

So caveat emptor, but remember that it it possible that the owner may have no idea of the condition of his own bike (which is almost worse!).


Sam

Grrr....

It mofo that sold me the bike MUST have known this.

since buying the bike i have had to shell out heaps ($4K) for various faults that were not apparent on a 10 minute spin around for a test ride.
the clutch was the final straw; what an asshole.
I can't believe that anyone would sell a bike - or put it back together - knowing it was like that.

thanks for your sympathy...

[Finnpaso]

Nothing to this topic, But Sam, is it You, Your wife, or who????... (in Your avatar)? Very courious now....

[persempre907]

Sorry,
What's "mofo"?
My on-line vocabulary doesn't know it...
Ciao

[Laddie907]

mofo...
muvvafukka
mother fucker
see also
father fucker; mother stabber...father raper...sister licker...Anglican priest...

adding insult to injury - the spring screws supplied by Barnett are about 10mm longer than "standard"...and were a bit "tight" to screw up...
so, of course - some ham-fisted bastard (me) managed to shear one off; but fear not dear reader...the ubiquitous "Easy-out" actually WORKED for the first time in my life...and the bike is back on the road...

the clutch must have been slipping a bit all along - because I can now feel the added acceleration under gas at about 7,000 RPM. Tyres were nice 'n sticky, too - it was about 40 Celsius here today.

[persempre907]

mofo...
muvvafukka
mother fucker
see also
father fucker; mother stabber...father raper...sister licker...Anglican priest...

Now it's all clear !!!
Ciao

[Finnpaso]

It would be nice, if EVERYBODY here use DIRECT/SIMPLE words, (if needeed), cause there is huge number of such "shortened versions"(what most of US guys use)for such things.... You can say very simple: "mother fucker", "fucking", etc..... i mean ONLY, that we ALL can understand, what you mean. I am in Frankie's side now.... Please, DONT USE THOSE SHORTENED "signs" at all...

Its much better to say it direct! Ok, i get with this many enemis, but i have to think WHOLE Paso owners community.... I dont want, that this site is coming somekind "only usa site"... if this is going that way, i am leaving these sites... SERIOUSLY! Everybody should think it....

It would be BEST to these PASO sites, that everybody TRY to write very simple "english", that everybody understand all here. i am waiting some feedback, especially from USA guys now.... Hopefully those understand, what i mean now.... Here are also huge number of such persons(Paso owners!!!), who understand only/few/some english... think it!

[JWilliam]

Grrr....
It mofo that sold me the bike MUST have known this.
There is no way the spring and screw and post have evaporated - even the cover has no sign of internal damage. (although my guess is that they tried to use the post as a lever point to unscrew the drum...just having a bitch before i repair it.

I am blessed, I bought my Paso new and know that my machine has no such damage. Its a cheering thought but the downside is that it takes about 20 years to get this smug. I think I'll keep it.

P.S. Its a secret but I have never taken my 906 in for a dealer service!!! because the motors are fairly straight forward and I expected to own it for a number of years I have done any work myself. The service stamp page is blank! I wonder if this will increase the value? Ha Ha

[Kurt]

... on caveat emptor ...
On my 907 purchase 6 months ago, I think the PO knew how to add shiny parts, but was genuinely ignorant of the bigger problems. Or, for example, he knew that there was some overcharging problem so he updated the regulator, but maybe did not know that the battery breathing had corroded to bottom of the shock ... so I guess I've let him off the hook, and I take it all as a "live and learn" experience.

... on language ...
I think that people often say things like "mofo" or "freakin'" or "F-bomb" or "WFO" as a form of self-censorship, things you can say in (nearly) polite company these days, avoiding the more shocking expletives, obscenities, and profanities that some may find offensive or embarrassing.

But why not let vernacular language change and spread? Changes will continue as they travel around the globe, and often return to the source. I wonder if Latin hip-hop, for example, is changing American hip-hop (no doubt there is a doctoral dissertation on the subject somewhere). I saw this today about hip-hop in China:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/24/arts/ ... .html?_r=1

(I did a web search for "dictionary of american slang" and this one looks interesting: http://onlineslangdictionary.com/)

Or take basketball, that all-American sport, other countries change basketball via Yao Ming, Nowitzki, Gasol ... I think there's an analogy in there somewhere ...

[Finnpaso]

P.S. Its a secret but I have never taken my 906 in for a dealer service!!! because the motors are fairly straight forward and I expected to own it for a number of years I have done any work myself. The service stamp page is blank! I wonder if this will increase the value? Ha Ha

I think, Your bike is much more better, than "average bike" in markets!(caused Your behaving), But surely You had to make all notes to notebook, etc, that You know exactly, when and what have You done to Your bike.... Its better "paper", than "stamps" in owners manual. I know very many examples, that Ducati dealers havent done, what they should done in maintain.... Its quite same with me: I know exactly, what need to do and how to do, so i trust much more to myself, than any official Ducati dealer...

[227708]

Like Antti (and, I'm sure, many other Ducati owners), I do my own maintenance and maintain a paper trail to document my maintenance and parts. It's not only nice to have when selling a bike, the maintenance notebook is a "medical history" for me to examine when I encounter problems with the machine.
Aircraft are a prime example of the value of owner-maintained log books. In the case of a plane, there's a log for the powerplant and another for the airframe. These records are actually legal documents, though I've seen plenty of maintenance "pencil-whipped" not just by small shops but by major maintenance facilities. If any of the logs are missing, the aircraft is seriously devalued and may require major maintenance before an inspector will sign it off as airworthy.
Over the years, I've made a habit of stapling parts invoices to my bike logs much as I would with an airplane I worked on. More than once the invoice has been invaluable when I encountered a problem with the parts and needed to find the purchase record. I also like adding photos of what I've done to the machine. My brain has been damaged by too many years, too many...well...too many lots of things. A photo reminds me of what the machine looked like before I began attacking it with my tools. This has proven particularly important when dealing with odd brackets, wire loom placement and such. Now that we're all digital, taking a series of pix is easy and cheap and the more useful ones are printed and attached to my logbooks.
Now, if only I could fix my brain.