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Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:50 pm
by 21783mike
ducinthebay wrote:Shinko tires on sale at Cycle Gear
130/70-16 Podium 006 Front $87
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=50 ... _87-4021_G

Couldn't find the rears.

Cheers.

http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L ... _87-4601_G

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:11 pm
by hardo
@Mike:

you are using the podium and the 747 on your bike, is that right?

do you know if there are any differences to the 757 you are refering to?

as far as I understood you did not to any modifcations to the chainline to fit the shinko 747 180/60.
how did you get that to work? just grinting some rubber of the tire away?

thanks for your input and gretting from switzerland, hardo

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 7:14 pm
by hardo
@pasoalf

great to hear from you again. since I life in switzerland too (not aournd the corner but no big deal anyway) I would certainly like to drop by and see how you did the modification to fit the avon.

did all your problems work out? you mentioned wheel bearing problems and the size of the avon made you some problems in respect to the swingarm too as far as I remember.

any contact with the mfk so far.

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:07 am
by 21783mike
hardo wrote:@Mike:

you are using the podium and the 747 on your bike, is that right?

do you know if there are any differences to the 757 you are refering to?

as far as I understood you did not to any modifcations to the chainline to fit the shinko 747 180/60.
how did you get that to work? just grinting some rubber of the tire away?

thanks for your input and gretting from switzerland, hardo
The 757 appears to have a slight bit different tread pattern with a bit more open area.... it is the mfg's replacement for the 747. A few places still had shown the 747 in stock, my guess though is that is remaining stock which will be replaced by the 757 once gone.
Yes no changes other than a few minutes taking about 2 mm rubber off the edge of the tire.

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:56 am
by joeltje
that's an idea as well, scrape tyres thinner, but, will this not affect the tyre dureability?

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:46 am
by paso750
specially on the 180/60 the edges are quite thick. Removing a little of that edge is no concern unless you go at it with an angle grinder :) It won´t impact the life of the tire.
you mentioned wheel bearing problems
That was not because of the tire but because of a missing bearing spacer of the sprocket carrier if I remember well (discussed that with pasoalf via pm long time ago)

G.

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 5:39 am
by pasoalf
@Hardo,
Paso750 mentioned it, the wheel bearing problem was because of a missing wheel bearing spacer. (never give your bike or parts of it to a mechanic...) I also mentioned earlier that I did offset the sprocket, but it also turned out that my front sprocket was mounted the wrong way around (same thing as mentioned above, never give ....)
Anyway that made it even easier.
The swiss specific stuff (MfK aloud tire dimensions) is probably not of general interest. But it's probably wise to not make the rear tire "flat". So you still have an option to show up at the MfK.
I' ll send you my privat E-Mail and handy No. If you are interested in showing up, no problem. I can give you all the necessary details. You even can have a ride to look how it feels (I anyway would like ones to ride a 906, could be probably a future replacement...)
pasoalf

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:46 am
by joeltje
paso750 wrote:specially on the 180/60 the edges are quite thick. Removing a little of that edge is no concern unless you go at it with an angle grinder :) It won´t impact the life of the tire

G.
That makes life a lot easier. We don't have any road inspection for bikes in Holland, so we can pretty much do what we like here :roll:

Thanks for that input, I have peace of mind now!

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Sun Jul 04, 2010 2:45 pm
by redchubeka
who sell in europe this SHINKO tyre? 180/60 r18 :wacko:
I can't find out anything on internet...only USA retailer, whit expensive shipping cost...

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:24 am
by joeltje
Avon Cobra Achter 180/60 R 16 ?.? bar
Avon Venom R AM42 Achter 180/60 R 16 2.9 bar
Bridgestone Exedra G704 Achter 180/60 R 16 2.9 bar
Dunlop D250 Achter 180/60 R 16 2.8 bar
Dunlop Elite III Achter 180/60 R 16 2.8 bar
Metzeler ME880 Marathon Achter 180/60 R 16 2.8 bar

these you can get in Europe....

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:47 pm
by redchubeka
many thanks joeltje but I have read that the shinko are thinner than the others listed?

and on the 906 can works whithout "modifications"

maybe I have found out where to buy them in germany.... I am waiting for a definitive answer :smoke:

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 9:23 am
by joeltje
redchubeka wrote:many thanks joeltje but I have read that the shinko are thinner than the others listed?

and on the 906 can works whithout "modifications"

maybe I have found out where to buy them in germany.... I am waiting for a definitive answer :smoke:
If that is the case, that would also work on the 750 Paso.

Let me know if you find some-one, I would be interested in a rear tyre as well! PM me if you know more?

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:25 pm
by pasoist
I got a Shinko 150/80/16 reartire for my Paso. Shinko SR743 to be more precise. Just rode it today for about a 175 km´s and it seems to working fine.

Only modifications needed were a longer chain (108 links instead of 106) and a bigger rear sprocket (40 teeth, instead of 38). With this combination I was able to get a decent amount of adjustability on the chain/tire-thingeys.

I still have the Michelin 130/60 on the frontwheel and I think the combination handled nicely. Guess I´ll be going with the michelin for the rest of this season and swap to a Shinko 130/70/16 during the next winter.

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:54 pm
by Mustang505
Hey Pasoist
is the Shinko you fitted a sport tyre or sport touring?

Re: Paso 750 Rear Tire solution (160/60/16)

Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 9:55 pm
by loki1957
cool, that's really good to know