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Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:23 am
by paso750
according to the Google translator "you are most welcome Antti" :)

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:40 am
by higgy
Yes,that is exactly what I meant to say.
You are most welcome,Antti :thumbup:

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 8:29 pm
by persempre907
Power of the web 2.0!!!!
Ciao

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 3:43 pm
by Finnpaso
Ok, thanks Guys! :thumbup: :lol: :beer: :wacko:

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:26 am
by Max
The Higgy's wiring diagram works but, it also needs two Diodes to isolate the two left and right circuits. Each of the two wire outputs must be conected to a diode befor going to the turn signals. Other wise the turn signals switch will flash both sides . Get a big diode capable of handling the wattage rating of the bulbs.

Max

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:05 pm
by higgy
????

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:07 am
by Max
higgy wrote:????
If there is no diode used the two sides will be shorted to each other at the switch. What do you mean by ????

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:34 pm
by higgy
In a double pole single throw(DPST) switch the two poles are not shorted as they are two separate circuits controlled by one switch
Dual ON-OFF
Double Pole, Single Throw = DPST

A pair of on-off switches which operate together (shown by the dotted line in the circuit symbol).

A DPST switch is often used to switch mains electricity because it can isolate both the live and neutral connections.
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Perhaps to be clear and to cover the vast differences in experience here, I should come up with a more detailed circuit just to avoid confusion
let me see what I can come up with :idea:
You do raise a good point here Max, If not done correctly they can be many unexpected outcomes
IMNSHO, the best way would be to swap out all the turn sockets for the twin element type. In this fashion the turns and 4ways could be completely isolated and it would give you the
option of using the 4 ways as running lights as well,but of course that would add significant cost to the whole process

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:09 pm
by higgy
a little something to chew on...........
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Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:51 pm
by Max
Higgy, You are absolutly right. The resolution on your first diagram was not clear on my screen and I did not realize that you mentioned double pole. I was thinking of single pole since the diagram was not too clear. Very well put :thumbup:

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:00 pm
by Finnpaso
higgy: Did You copy that shematic from some Motorola sites, as it looks, like its drawn in USA.... ???? In USA they draw those resistor another way, as here in "old world" ... :mrgreen: :thumbup:

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 7:48 pm
by higgy
It came from an electronics board I use for ideas. It very well could be the guy that posted it works for motorola which I why I leave the credit where credit is due

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 8:46 am
by ducapaso
Anyhow, european car wiring use a special flaher unit (12v/42-92W) and a multiple deviator switch:
When it's off,the side wiring are indipendent and work with the "left-right" switch, but when the hazard switchis on, the entire flashing wiring works alltogeter bypassing the left-right" switch.
Sorry, I have no reference to tell you how to connect... I alwais did it with no wiring map :mrgreen:

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 12:52 pm
by higgy
Sounds like a DPST switch, One side would power your signals,the other the 4 ways. There are of course many ways to wire up a 4 way systems. Here is a link to some well thought out circuits.http://www.rattlebars.com/mtz/fourways.html

Re: hazard warning lights

Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 2:54 pm
by ducapaso
If I can translate it correctly, it should be a double function switch, either a dpst and a "single pole double switch", to send 12v straight to the flasher bypassing the handlebar switch...