Carb convert.

[angelix]

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instead of arguing about which is better, why not some of you brain heads (I mean this in a nice way) try to work out a way to improve the FI system and bring the 'last paso model' into the 21st cantury...now that would be nice

I was looking for some info and came acrosso to a new (!?) product developed by IGNITECH: the IGNIJET for DUCATI

http://www.ignitech.cz/english/ignijet/ ... ducati.htm

I like the N2O controller....

[persempre907]

1007 Euros for the full version....
I would expect huge improvements for that price
Ciao

[angelix]

1007 Euros for the full version....
I would expect huge improvements for that price
Ciao

yep it is pricey, BUT , less than the OEM (Modern IAW1.5 - 5.9)

unfortunately the OEM version has the inmobilizer and cannot be programmed unless you have specific tools (and knowledge)

having said that, I think the 907 engine is good as it is, with its defects and the only thing of the bike I would change (actually I did) is the Brakes as the original (on mine at leatst) were absolutely crap.

[persempre907]

having said that, I think the 907 engine is good as it is, with its defects and the only thing of the bike I would change (actually I did) is the Brakes as the original (on mine at leatst) were absolutely crap.

I also think so, the 907 is a great improvement over the 906 (I have had) in every respect.
About brakes, it's enough replace the front master cylinder.

Ciao

[angelix]

having said that, I think the 907 engine is good as it is, with its defects and the only thing of the bike I would change (actually I did) is the Brakes as the original (on mine at leatst) were absolutely crap.

I also think so, the 907 is a great improvement over the 906 (I have had) in every respect.
About brakes, it's enough replace the front master cylinder.

Ciao

Yep, but I went al little bit further and I replaced also the calipers (all 916 Brembo Serie Oro, including MCs) and hoses (the ST/ST Braided version is an huge improvement) AND a nice set custom made Discacciati cast Iron Rotors with matching pads; overall the best 700 euro ever invested in my 907ie

[907pasonut]

Didn't some ducati rider kill themselves because the cast iron rotor or rotors shattered?

[907pasonut]

my 89 851 ran very nicely with a p8 and possibly a std 888 eprom from memory. i had to ride it once and the original ecu was away.

So P8 work on P7 engines but they have to have a P8 chip.
http://www.ducati851and888.com/showthread.php?t=3161

I`ll test a P8 w custom maps on mine this weekend.

Tamburinifan, how did you go with the brain change...did the bike go any better?

[angelix]

Didn't some ducati rider kill themselves because the cast iron rotor or rotors shattered?

never heard of this one.

the only issue with cast iron is that you need specific pads.

btw, the rotors on the Paso750/ 906 were cast irons.

The important thing is that you follow the advice regarding the minimum thickness, but this applies to any type of rotors.

[persempre907]

Yep, but I went al little bit further and I replaced also the calipers (all 916 Brembo Serie Oro, including MCs) and hoses (the ST/ST Braided version is an huge improvement) AND a nice set custom made Discacciati cast Iron Rotors with matching pads; overall the best 700 euro ever invested in my 907ie

I did the same thing, fitting the 999's radial m/c and Brembo full floating rotors.
I'm very happy and my red 907, with 300 mm. rotors, brakes much better than the black 907 with the stock brakes.
Ciao

[higgy]

instead of arguing about which is better, why not some of you brain heads (I mean this in a nice way) try to work out a way to improve the FI system and bring the 'last paso model' into the 21st cantury...now that would be nice

Have plans to do just that in 2011

Brainheads? Nah,just a bunch of motorheads discussing the age old addage,"chicken or Egg?" All in good fun.

[Tamburinifan]

Tamburinifan, how did you go with the brain change...did the bike go any better?

No, we just tested it on centerstand.
But it works, we tested my ECU wizard friends chip w 16 maps on this ECU also
and switched maps while running.
Tunerpro & Emulator functioned as well, could read & alter maps while running.

W a P8 on a P7 bike, you must take an P8 chip and fill in f e 907 fuel & ignition values.
P8 has different hardware inside, outside hardware same. It has also different hex files.


Next project could be to see if a car P8 REALLY works on a Duc.
Read that tip many times but not seen anyone actually do it IRL.

[paso750]

Have plans to do just that in 2011

omg higgy, I`m somehow disappointed. I was sure after all this discussion you would put a Weber on your 907ie

G.

[higgy]

omg higgy, I`m somehow disappointed. I was sure after all this discussion you would put a Weber on your 907ie

Hmmmmm,I do have a few around and the 906 runs much better than the 907

Nah,would be out of character for me to do such a thing as I know you are aware. While I have nothing against someone needing to have the latest whiz bang "improvement" I prefer to make the best of what I have, what ever that may be

[907pasonut]

omg higgy, I`m somehow disappointed. I was sure after all this discussion you would put a Weber on your 907ie

Hmmmmm,I do have a few around and the 906 runs much better than the 907

higgy...there must be something wrong with your 907

[higgy]

higgy...there must be something wrong with your 907

Needs a clutch at the moment, soon as our small engine AC dyno gets commissioned( next year at some point, we have several small engine eddy current dyno, but they are not exactly what's required) I plan to work on the mapping. It will get better. Better than the Weber on the 906? We will see................