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Hi,
I am new to this site and based in the UK. I am looking to buy a 907 (don`t want the hassle of 16`` rims) and as they are so rare it is awkward to decide what is a reasonable value. I want a really good original condition bike with good history, low mileage if possible. Basically I would rather pay decent money for a good bike than buy an average one and spend a fortune on it (been there, done that!).
Assuming I locate a good example as described above, what do you guys think I should pay?

Hi Mark,
welcome in this forum.
Recently, I also have made the same reasoning about this bike.
The 907 is surely the best Paso because is the most modern and the most reliable: 17" rims, electronic ignition, etc.
Obviously, as you tells, the best would be a bike with a good history, low mileage, without accidents etc.
This could be very hard for a 13/15 years old bike...
No matter, for a very, very good bike you could expect to pay about €. 3.500 (£. 2200).
I wish you find a very good bike
Ciao

I would say about £1700 for a good low mileage bike in honest condition.

You tend to get two types of 907 for sale in the UK, those that have been lovingly maintained mechanically but the bodywork is a bit ratty and those that are the oposite !

The bodywork is difficult to get hold of so be careful of anything with bent or broken panels as its very rare they will ever line up again!

If it looks too good to be true then it probably is

Where abiouts are you in the UK ?

i've been following all the 907s sold in the USA for the past 2+ years. almost all sold for between 4 and 5 thousand dollars, depending on the milage, condition and after-market upgrades. I haven't followed the European market as closely, but from what I've seen on e-bay, European sale prices are competitive w/ USA sale prices. the following upgrades are common:

exhaust cans
air cleaner
racing chip
bar risers
chain wheels (sprokets)
braided brake and clutch lines
corbin seat
euro taillight
fender elimination kit
clutch cover

these upgrades alone cost a couple of thousand dollars, so factor their presence or absence when shopping.

other less common (and more expensive ) upgrades include:

dzus fasteners
rear suspension
master cylinder
brakes/rotors
marchesini rims (2 grand minimum just for this!)
clutch and/or slipper clutch
high compression pistons
944 kit

obviously, the presence of any of these upgrades increases value significantly.

generally, red is the most desirable color, and red 907s sell for more even though black 907s are much rarer. re-paints and custom paint jobs decrease value significantly.

milage is important. under 15,000 is good; under 10,000 is great. more than 30,000 is high and decreases value.

'91s are the least desirable; '93s are the most desirable. after model year "91, Ducati upgraded the brakes/rotors and switched from black to silver exhaust cans.

check the condition of body plastic carefully. older bikes often show stress fractures at or near the fasteners. replacement body plastic is hard to come by and expensive. and even if you find it, the paint may not match well.

check the condition of the paint. the painting process for the 907 is complicated and not easily replicated. it's not a simple matter of buying touch-up paint or ordering paint with paint codes. paint problems decrease value substantially; conversly, good paint enhances value.

mechanically, check for maintenance records. pay attention to valve and timing-belt maintenance. Ducati recommends that the valve timing belts be changed every 12,000 miles. this job is expensive. if the bike your considering needs new belts, this decreases value. make sure the bike idles and accelerates smoothly, w/o back fire. fuel mapping problems can be difficult to diagnose and expensive to repair.


finally, consider who the current and former owners are/were. there are always exceptions, but generally speaking, 907s owned by "mature" riders haven't been ridden as hard, have fresher engines, and probably less repairs and headaches down the road. young bucks tend to ride harder, causing greater wear and tear on engine, suspension, brakes, and chasis.

good luck!

Hi everybody,
every market has his own rules.
I also have seen on eBay that the USA prices are higher than the european.
But, concerning the upgrades, I would avoid the enhanced bikes 'cause, buying an old bike, I think is best to prefer a stock bike.
These bikes are turning out to historical.
So, if I would want customize a bike, I would buy a Monster...
P.S. £. 2.200, for me is for a like new bike...
Ciao

The 907's are rare but you do see them come up ffor sale. £2,000 will get you a very tidy bike.

Rogero

Thanks for your advice. Your values are pretty much as I expected. What put doubt in my mind were the values on UBG (Used Bike Guide) magazines website. They put the 907 values much higher than the 750/906 bikes, with a top price of £4000.
I was interested to read the comment about the `special` paint used on these bikes. It may explain why one example I viewed had crazed/cracking paint all over the fairing!
I had actually viewed a bike on Saturday which was on ebay as it was quite near me. It never met its reserve, but I have agreed a deal with the owner and pick it up on Sunday. Can`t wait!!
It is a 3 owner bike. First owner was Chris Clarke, owner of Chris Clarke Motorcycles in Wymondaham, Norfolk (coincidently I went to school at Wymondham College!), second owner was also a muture chap from a village just outside Cambridge, so it has always lived in my part of the world. The gentleman I am buying the bike off is an engineer by trade and an obvious perfectionist. I was lucky enough to be shown a special he is building, a ZZR600 engine in a Bandit 400 frame with loads of bits which he has made from scratch on his lathe, milling machines etc. It is nearly complete and looks superb. I wish I had paid more attention in metalwork lessons at school now!
I digress (as usual). The 907 is a real beaut. I would say he undersold it in his ad. Less than 15K miles and totally original except for a scottoiler. The bodywork is mint apart from one 10mm crack from a fixing point, and the paintwork is superb also. All the owners must have ridden with their legs apart as there is not even any of that slight dulling you get to the paint where your legs grip the tank. One of my first jobs will be to apply some clear protective film to these vulnerable areas to keep it looking great. I have done this to my Daytona and it is pretty much invisible and can be removed with a hair dryer if required.
I now have 3 bikes. My wife was surprisingly calm when I informed her of my purchase. I wonder when it will be payback time?

Hi Mark,
take advantage by the calm of your wife (first) and by the goodness of the bike.
Finally, what's the price of the bike?
Ciao

The agreed price of the bike is between me and the seller, but I am happy with the price. The beauty of bike of this age is that they have done all their depreciating. If kept in a similar condition it will always be worth a similar amount of money. That`s what I told the wife anyway!

Hi Mark, what color is the bike you just bought? Congrats on a great purchase! Enjoy the excellent ride quality of a 907IE.

Regards,

Jose

My new bike is red of course. I don`t think I would have bought one in any other colour. I think Dukes are like Ferraris in that respect!
I picked it up on Sunday as planned and really enjoyed the ride home despite getting caught in a downpour. It feels really planted and very comfy to ride. Love the noise also, even with the standard cans. It is obviously not as quick as my Triumph but it sure is pretty!!!

Glad to hear! I just bought a red 907IE a month ago and certainly love the way it sounds with the stock cans and the open airbox with a K&N filter! It growls! Congrats on a great purchase and if by any chance you come to a Daytona Bike Week let me know so we can meet and ride together with the Local Ducati Crowd from Florida!

Regards,

Jose
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RED 907IE
RED 750 PASO

To ride my Duke to Daytona Bike Week would be wonderful Jose.
Unfortunately I live in the UK. I will probably take it to our BMF Rally later this year. Not quite as exotic as your event I think!!

Hi Mark, please if possible post some pictures of your bike and the event if you go to the BMF.

Take Care and enjoy your new Duc!

Regards,

Jose

907's are rare but not that rare in the UK. On the Isle of man for the TT three including mine were parked together in a graveyard (!) for the raod races in the South of the Ireland. I've got some pictures but am struggling to get them on the site.

At Donnington Park I spotted another "friend" - a bit tatty with 47,000 miles on the clock!

When's the BMF ?