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Foam insert in oil vapor return line
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 5:35 pm
by betenoire
Friends:
I am replacing the 1/2 inch lines that run from (1) the crankcase ventilation to the 'oil tank,' and (2) the return line from the tank to the airbox. These lines are cracking and leaking, as I would expect each of you have seen given their state of disrepair.
Upon removing the line to the airbox, two little foam 'tampons' came out at the junction with the airbox. They are pellet-shaped very light foam like a sponge or air cleaner material. My manuals and part catalogs don't mention these items.
On one hand I can see why you would put something like this in; to keep raw oil from being burned. On the other hand, won't this restrict the crankcase ventilation system, which would be the point of the airbox and oil tank system?
Questions: Have you replaced this hose and found similar items? Should I clean and reinsert these 'tampons' or discard?
Any help would be appreciated. Happy holidays to all. Best wishes to your families, friends and winter projects.
Brett
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 9:20 pm
by streetsurfer
I did not see anything like that in mine when I replaced the hose. Nor did I see them when I removed the small chamber from under the seat when I installed a K&N air filter. Maybe it was an addition by previous owner. I don't know if they will draw oil into the breather system during extended wheelies, but that may be one reason to have inserted the foam.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 10:35 pm
by jcslocum
They will help precipitate the oil so that is can run back to the crankcase. It breathes so that the fumes can be burned,
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 3:44 pm
by Finnpaso
I lead that breathing pipe to close chain to air, when changed to Dellortos in my 750 Paso... Function well !!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 5:58 pm
by lceriani
Also in my Paso the pipe breathes directly into the air. Here in Italy it's illegal because of pollution restrictions, but I had no choice with air filters and no airobox...
I placed my pipe on the left side of the bike:

Indeed, I don't like all that oil leaking from the pipe to the rear chain/wheel. Did anyone try a better placement?
I know that on Monsters someone connects an air filter directly to the valve from engine, but this solution is dangerous because if the filter gets dirty, oil overpressure may occur.
A better solution is to place an alluminium can, as in racing bikes. Here is an handmade solution for Monsters:
So... what did you do on yuor Paso?
LC
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:01 pm
by Finnpaso
Very simple to put some can to end of pipe, if dont want breath it to anywhere else... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:44 pm
by wilbur
I've used these in the past. Mounted the stud to the tab where the rear part of the fuel tank mounts. Oil always has a chance to flow back to engine cause it is almost straight up. Not sure what diameter it was but they make it in 3/4" and 1" o.d. pipe
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product ... od=62-1130
It is made for crankcase ventilation.
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:31 pm
by Christian
Hello,
I'm using a special K&N filter for crankcase. I have bought it at TPO.
It is directly fixed on valve. Special part for ducati
http://www.tpoparts.com/
Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:30 pm
by lceriani
Do crankcase filters split oil all around the engine?
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:24 am
by wilbur
I found that you may get some slight oil mist after a couple thousand miles to clean up but nothing like running an open hose. Don't forget when you decelerate the crankcase goes into negative pressure and will suck dirt into engine if you don't have some kind of filter or contained system.
Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:20 pm
by Christian
I had seen oil near filter in other ducati, but it was due to a defect crankcase valve (vibration problem).
I have no problem in my PASO with this filter.
Only one cleanup per year (3000 miles).
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:56 am
by lceriani
did you remove the black plastic box that originally was connected to the cranckase and to the airbox? (the "mistery box" of
http://ducatipaso.org/modules.php?name= ... pic&t=1543 )
LC
Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:25 pm
by Christian
Yes, I had remove the black box.
I not have the original air box filter, I have a special K&N filter directly mounted on carb to give a maximum air of motor !
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 1:00 pm
by lceriani
I haven't airbox, too, but I kept the "mistery black box": the pipe goes from the crankcase to this box, then it exits from it and goes to the rear, through the left side of te frame.
LC