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907IE & 900SS service..Help!!

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:44 am
by Cybermunster
I checked a local shop for the services on our bikes, the shop is located in Ft.Lauderdale and they seem knowledgeable and professional, there were some serious racing Ducs in there as they are very race/track oriented.

Having had no previous service experience with Ducs I would appreciate your opinions on these quotes before I go ahead and jump in.

On the 1992 907 IE (16,000 miles):
I was quoted $1232.00 for full service - adjust valves, adjust/setup fuel injection, replace cam belts, flush & service cooling, clutch and brake systems, replace all brake and clutch hoses, new fuel filters, oil/filter change, clean, lub & adjust chain, some other lubs, checks and adjustments that I now don't remember. (Parts & 10hrs. labor included).

On my brother's 1991 900SS (22,000 miles) quote $1100.00 for basically same service less of course the radiator/cooling service. On his bike they strongly recommend replacing the head bearings which would bring it to a total of $1432.00 (Parts & 11hrs. labor included)

Are these estimates on the high / average / low side?

The shop does look clean and well run and I feel comfortable with them working on my bike, turn time 2~3 days, if there are no "surprises".

What do u guys & gals think?

Rgrds!!

Re: 907IE & 900SS service..Help!!

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:28 am
by mrinflux
Cybermunster wrote:I was quoted $1232.00 for full service - adjust valves, adjust/setup fuel injection, replace cam belts, flush & service cooling, clutch and brake systems, replace all brake and clutch hoses, new fuel filters, oil/filter change, clean, lub & adjust chain, some other lubs, checks and adjustments that I now don't remember. (Parts & 10hrs. labor included.

Are these estimates on the high / average / low side?
Cbyermunster,

$1,232.00 is the right amount for this service. That's the going rate. I just had this same service done and paid the same amount.

How can they do it so cheap?

Elton

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 7:45 am
by persempre907
I'm always wondering about the USA prices :sad: :sad: :sad: !!!
I'm just done a similar work.
By myself, I changed oil and water (if I was able to do it, anyone can do it :funny: ), but I brought the bike to a mechanic to check the valves clearances, the belts, the chain... I paid €. 180.

Start to do something by yourself and find a mechanic who allows you to see how he does the work.

So, the next time you might do all the works by yourself.

Ciao :thumbup:

reading carefully

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 8:14 am
by mrinflux
persempre907 wrote: the next time you might do all the works by yourself.
Franco,

Obviously, if one does the work oneself, there is no labor cost; only parts. I don't know Cybermuster personally, but I'm willing to bet he understands if he does the work himself, it will be cheaper. Doesn't that go without saying?

As I understand Cybermunster's thread, he's not asking whether he could save money by doing the work himself, but rather, if $1,232.00 dollars is a reasonable price for the 7,500 mile full service. Certainly you understand that some people, for whatever reason, would rather pay somebody else to service their bike than do it themselves?

Elton

Re: reading carefully

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:52 pm
by persempre907
mrinflux wrote:Certainly you understand that some people, for whatever reason, would rather pay somebody else to service their bike than do it themselves?
Elton,

I can understand that some people prefer pay to service the bike, but if he asks if the price of the servicing was right, I guess he found it a little bit expensive for his wallet.

So, I take the liberty of tell him, that everybody know, he could save something by doing himself the easier works, which they are also well described in the owner manual, and then, if he wants to learn the harder works, he could go to a mechanic who allows him to see the servicing.

I also made it, but first I bought all the literature about the Ducati servicing.

No matter, I keep on amazing me about the USA prices.

Ciao

"USA prices"

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:07 pm
by mrinflux
persempre907 wrote:I keep on amazing me about the USA prices.
Have you priced a 1098? We're paying about 5 thousnd less for a 1098 than Europeans and Australians are.

I spend lots of time in Italy. Italy is about as expensive as it gets. Nobody in Italy should be amazed by "the USA prices."

Peace, Elton

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 2:18 pm
by Yank907
I feel like I just got a bargin then!! I just paid $450.00 and another $250.00 and had the clutch replaced while they were at it!! I have a local guy here in Columbia called Moto Gizmo and he is certified in all the euros bikes and well versed. I guess I got me a bargin.......mine was a 30,000 mile service.

I am just to lazy to do it myself by the way. I got more money than time.......

Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 4:14 pm
by persempre907
Yank907 wrote:I am just to lazy to do it myself by the way. I got more money than time.......
You're a lucky guy! I have neither money nor time!
mrinflux wrote:Have you priced a 1098? We're paying about 5 thousnd less for a 1098 than Europeans and Australians are.
I've seen the 1098 only in the window! Too much expensive for my wallet.
Besides, I love much more the Tamburini's bikes. So, at least, I'll buy a 916/996/998!

Peace!!!

Ciao

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:39 pm
by Cybermunster
Thanks for the replies. I do most all work on my Harley myself, but never dealt with Ducs, kind of intimidated plus the fact I don't have the service manual and the hard to get of some parts makes me think I'll be better of having a indy do the work. These guys are extremely highly recommended and have a excellent reputation. I might take it to them without the fairings if it's worth it.

Guess she'll be parked until I come up with the funds... :sad:

Anyone knows where I can get some aftermarket slip-ons for the bike, used or new will be fine.

Rgrds!

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:31 pm
by persempre907
No problem, above all if you already are able to service your Harley.

Here you'll find the service manual
http://forums.ducatipaso.org/viewtopic. ... load&cid=2

It's a good start, but it don't say anything about the valves adjustment, so it can help you

http://www.ducatisuite.com/valves.html

I'm sure you can do by yourself most of the works :thumbup: !

Good luck!

Ciao

Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:20 pm
by Ducman
Here's where I would go with this. Do the easy stuff that you are comfortable with, coolant, oil, brake lines etc, that will save some money. Shops make their money on marking up the product as well as the labour. The local dealer admitted that they make almost nothing on selling new bikes but the service department and accessory sales keep the place open. Personally I would let them check the valves and replace the belts unless you have the time, tools and a bucket of shims laying around. Haynes manuals are a joke and only serve as a basic reference for people who know what they are doing. If you screw up 1200 could look cheap, if they screw up its on their dime! I've done a lot of wrenching on hot rods and the best advice is knowing what NOT to do yourself. :thumbup:

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:42 pm
by Rogero
It's much the same story in the UK with a full dealer service cosing ypto £800 ( sterling ). I've found a local workshop who specialise with V twins notably Suzukis and Dukes plus they will happily look after Harleys. A full service this year cost me £250 and it was better than the main dealer.

Just make surewho ever looks after your bike checks the belts etc.

Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 7:25 pm
by persempre907
£. 250 seems to me a fair price.
The official dealers always have more expensive fares.
So, it needs search another option. That don't mean have a worst service.
Ciao

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:18 am
by Yank907
Ducman wrote:Here's where I would go with this. Do the easy stuff that you are comfortable with, coolant, oil, brake lines etc, that will save some money. Shops make their money on marking up the product as well as the labour. The local dealer admitted that they make almost nothing on selling new bikes but the service department and accessory sales keep the place open. Personally I would let them check the valves and replace the belts unless you have the time, tools and a bucket of shims laying around. Haynes manuals are a joke and only serve as a basic reference for people who know what they are doing. If you screw up 1200 could look cheap, if they screw up its on their dime! I've done a lot of wrenching on hot rods and the best advice is knowing what NOT to do yourself. :thumbup:
amen to that, so true

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:49 am
by Cybermunster
:thumbup: Thank you all very much for your time and help!

Today I called the local Ducati "stealer" and they basically quoted me between $1100USD and $1200USD for the service (valves/fuel injection/belts/servicing brake, clutch and cooling systems/new fuel filters/plugs/oil change and a general "going over" the entire bike check torque on fasteners, ect..
A great thing is they will also service the front forks for this amount!

Service guy seem honest in that he tells me this quote is on a worst case scenario for example ALL valves needing shims and adjustment, the fuel injection needing MAJOR adjustments, ect..

I do not anticipate this as the bike runs pretty good and strong as is.

He does want the bike "naked" so I'll take off all the fairings prior to service, no big deal.

Best rgrds!