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After some searching here's what I've come up with. I went to my local Auto Body supply store with the paint codes generally online, you've seen it, PPG 473.201. Well actually that didn't mean anything to them, said it didn't exist. Even if it does, it's not necessarily correct.

So (as expected) I provided them with the oil cooler cover for about a week to make an exact match. First they started with a computer scanner, then the lady, who's worked there for about 20 years, set about creating the perfect match, starting with the computer match as a baseline (the computer said "Hot red").

I have not painted my oil cooler cover or two mirrors yet, so I can't testify to it's perfection, but keep in mind what she told me: 1) red is the hardest color for coverage, it takes the most coats. 2) this match is red over red, meaning to be painted over the origional red using only a clear binding agent like Bonding Clear, or Bond Aid.

If you happen to be painting over primer, make sure it's red at least for your best chance of perfection. If you are doing a total repaint, then perfection isn't quite required. If you are matching parts as I am, it is.

This is the formula, don't ask me what it means, but a paint supplier will know. I do have a high degree of confidence that this is as close as you can get, but I will update this when I find the time to paint my parts. Keep in mind however, that the finish in some lights is as important as color for true perfection. Matching the "orange peal" of the origional is it's own task.

PPG

J84 1.3
J52 46.5
J54 10.2
J58 .5
J92 2.5
J93 68.8
J87 2.5
* This is the furmula to make it, not a paint code, each "J" is a color tint*

Some notes:

1. That primer colour is very important under last red and clearcoat. It changes very much that last red !!!

2. EVERY used Paso have "different red", cause that red is one of worst colours to UV light from sun and ALL Pasos have been in sunlight different time !!! so, every Pasos colour is unique... They have lookeed same in factory, but all started to change after that....

3. PPG is one "Italian colour maker" only and those paint sellers, who dont sell PPG colours, dont know anything about PPG codes. I have had very many Ducati parts in 3 different painters and allways same "problems" with colour codes... Just lastly with ST4S colour codes...

4. That your formula is just, WHAT painter put to pait to mach it to Your fairings... One colour(that "last red") is coming from many "base colours", as U can see from formula.

Once upon a time I painted cars for a living so I understand the variables quite well. I would recommend anyone if they are trying to match their color to do exactly what I did, take in a piece. If someone is looking for something a little easier but a little less precise, or an overall paint job this would do well. This is a match for a 88 Paso that has always been garage kept , I would think in any case it's closer than the commonly posted Ducati red since that covers many many years and is not necessarily exclusive to the Paso.

PPG stands for Pittsburg Plate Glass, a US company with worldwide operations

There are very many "Ducati red" in colour makers papers depending on year and modell and surely they have changed those colours also in factory, like 750 Paso red looks totally different,as 907IE...916 again totally different, than 907, etc.... Anyway very difficult colour for repainting, so i think, that it doesnt have to look, "like original red", but anyway "good looking red" They make colours to bikes in factory, as they have allways made bikes: ..."what they find from warehouse shelfs"... :laugh:

Btw, i think also, that when bike needs to be repainted, then surely hole bike around.... That "matching to another parts" have to be done, when only one mirror, or air scoop, etc. have to paint....

I'm not sure I understood your last paragraph, sorry

"paragraph" ??? Sorry, that i didnt understand, what U mean??? I know, my english is bad, and also i have seen, that usa guys write/talk with something strange way compared to english guys and also in english there are very many "local languages", so if someone write that way, then many persons "get lost" here. I pray, that here in Paso forum people try to use "international english". Sorry again, that mine is bad... I really didnt mean anything bad...

ANYWAY, i think, that IF usa guys want this site to be only for usa guys with talking "local language", then i want to be in some other site... This site should be to ALL Paso owners and then moderators and ALL members have to understand, that all guys dont know "usa english" so well.... or some "local language tricks"...

bf-fly wrote:I'm not sure I understood your last paragraph, sorry

He meant that, when a whole bike has to be repainted, it isn't so important reproducing the exact colour.
Otherwise, when it needs to paint only some part, it's much more difficult matching the exact colour with the other parts.

Ciao

Just that way!

Hi All,

After being tempted to create some form of 750 Paso Tricolore, I had a look in the gallery and concluded that my bike needs to be painted in its original red/blackish colour.

Regarding the red colour code for a 750 Paso, has anyone come to a final conclusion regarding the supplier and colour code? Unfortunately my bike was resprayed in some form of NCR red silver combination by a previous owner so I'm unable to match the colour. And how many coats of which paint needs to be applied?

As regards the blackish colour on the lower part of the fairings, I would be grateful if anyone could shed some light on this aspect as well.

With regard to the decals, it looks as though somebody in England is producing replicas which is great news. They seem to pop up on eBay every now and then.

All help with the above is highly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Mark

Hi Mark

Regarding decal see : http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Ducati-750-Paso-d ... dZViewItem

Many thanks for the link Nilaus - I just purchased a set two minutes ago!

Mark,

in Germany there is RH Motorradlacke who have monopoly on motorcycle paints.
The base coat is white, then there`s candy (light red) and on top a clear coat. As far as I now the red is a silk colour and gets it effect through the clear coat.
(RH numbers, red ´90 light 750S/900SS/906Paso: 59-3014, base coat: 193)
For a side panel I repainted once I used Opel graphit metallic (363) for the lower part which seemed a pretty good match.

G.

PS: Unluckily the sticker sets come without the "controlled air flow" sticker of the early Pasos.

Used RH touchup paint on my Monster gold frame & 907 red faring.
Abolut top class!

G, how much does it cost f 1 L RH paint?

I'd hate to try to match the paint on the Monster I just bought for the wife.....This is the factory paint!

G, how much does it cost f 1 L RH paint?

The paint is quite expensive and they sell it in sets normally. The bottles are 375ml.
According to what I`ve found in the internet i.e. base coat and red colour (2 bottles, 375ml each)) cost € 68,-, 3 bottle set (incl. clear coat) costs € 83,-.
A painter should be able to paint a standard bike with max. 1l of paint for the Paso it`s probably a bit more.

G.