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Starter...why????

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:40 pm
by ducapiero
Guys yestaday i was coming back home i turned on my baby and all is ok ,then i turnde on another time and,...nothing :rant: :rant: :rant: :sad: :sad:
i say all the baddwords in the world iand i ha ve t push her to come back home,Today i check all the wire and connection,ui hope is a bad connectuion....
give me suggestion please
i want to go to wdw 2007!!!!1 :sad: :sad:

Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 5:34 pm
by persempre907
Ciao Piero,
il motorino d'avviamento gira per caso a vuoto?
Se è così è la ruota libera dell'avviamento e ti tocca smontare il carter laterale.
Se non gira proprio può essere di tutto, dal fusibile a...

Hi Piero,
Does the starter work freely, but doesn't the engine start?
If so, the freewheel was broken, and you have to remove the left case of the engine.
If the starter doesn't work at all, it could be any issue, from a fuse to...
Ciao

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:38 pm
by ducapiero
it' the starter going mad yesterday i give it little hammer on and it function antoher time....
i think the brushes are k.o. do you have any experience i'm very scared by cost :sad: :sad:

Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:52 pm
by persempre907
Don't worry Piero.
The brushes are inexpensive at all.
Besides, you can fit any kind of brush, it's enough they are bigger than the stock ones: you have only to reduce them to the right shape.
Good work.
Ciao

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:23 am
by jcslocum
The brushed are easy (kind of) to fix. You need to take off the 2 oil cooler hoses to get at the end of the starter. Loosen the 2 screws that hold the starter together and the end cap will come off. You can then remove the brushes and get new ones. Finding to same size isn't important as they are very soft and with a file can be easly brought to the correct shape and size.

Put them in and then replace the end cap. You starter is rebuilt. It took me 1 hour to do this job. 2 days to get brushes.

Jon

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:47 pm
by ducapaso
Le spazzole sono le stesse dei modelli più recenti. Originali non costano molto ed il codice è nel catalogo del Paso Credo di aver postato le istruzioni dettagliate sol forum del 906. Prova una ricerca con "starter"

Brushes are the same of newer engines The oem code is in the Paso spare part list, and they are quite cheap. I think I've posted detalis in 906 discussion. Try to search "starter"

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:33 pm
by ducapiero
Nicola non sono riuscito a trovare il tuo materiale, comunque un po le mani le so mettere ma ho paura di fare danni.....grazie come sempre
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Nicola i am not able to find your material on site,howewer i have little experience on bike but i'm scared to make injuries on my baby
thanks a lot to all of you guys
:thumbup:
i'll give you news

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:28 pm
by ducapaso
i'm in a rush, so if someone needs, I'll translate later :thumbup:
Una vlta tolti i 2 tubi dell'olio
segna la posizione esatta del corpo motorino di ferro e delle altre parti, poirimuovi l'anello di plastica di protezione dal motore poi svita le 2 viti che reggono lo zoccolo di alluminio.
STAI ATTENTO si smonta quasi tutto il motorino!
Togli i pezzi ad uno ad uno stando attento alle rondelle d'acciaio sull'albero rotore.
Una spazzola è saldata sull'indotto (ci vuole un saldatore bravo)
l'altra è ad incastro insieme alla ghiera.
Quando rimonti, attento alla posizione delle mollette ed all'esatta posizione della ghiera portaspazzole e delle rondelle.
Con un paio di tentativi ce la dovresti fare, nonostante la posizione scomoda, ma se devi proprio bestemmiare, cerca di farlo sottovoce! :funny:
Attento a come stringi la vite dell'arrivo corrente, è appoggiata a isolanti di plastica delicati!!!

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 6:53 pm
by ducapiero
Domani ci provo come sempre grazie Nicola sei un grande....
vi faccio sapere
ciao

Tomorrow i try.... thank you Nicola you're great
i'll give you notice
ciao

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:23 pm
by persempre907
Ciao Piero e ciao Nicola,
buon lavoro e ricorda di portare il calendario caso mai dimenticassi qualche santo!
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P.S. questo post non verrà tradotto in inglese neanche su richiesta!

Ciao

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:59 pm
by ducapaso
Let's try translating:
Once you take oli cooler piper away;
Mark the exact position of all the starter parts (with an iron puncher will do!)
Remove the plastic protection ring from the starter and unscrew the two screws in the alloy bottom.
BE CAREFUL! everything can fall down now!
Pick all the parts away, taking care to the spacers in hte rotor.
one of the brushes is attached to the starter body. You need a good crafstman to change it.
The other one is installed in the spare set
When you reinstall anything you need to be careful to the exact position of the springs, the brushes and everythin else.
After one or two takes, you should be able to do it! (if you need to blast, do it silently, or when you are alone!!! :neener: )
At the end, be careful to the 12v screw, it seats on plastic spacers!

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:38 pm
by persempre907
ducapaso wrote:if you need to blast, do it silently, or when you are alone!!! :neener: )
Niente male.... Ma adesso voglio vedere come te la cavi con la storia del calendario...
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Not too bad....
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Ciao Nicola

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:14 am
by ducapaso
Francesco has posted something in Italian that he's too ashamed to translate on his own! :D :cool: :laugh: :funny: :funny: :funny:
He's a very bad guy!

Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:43 pm
by persempre907
:neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
I wanted only suggest him to bring himself a calendar, in case he had forgotten some Saint to swear at (here in Italy, on the calendars there is a Saint for every day).
:neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Ciao

P.S. This is my post n. 907 :thumbup: :funny:

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:53 pm
by ducapaso
P.S. This is my post n. 907 :thumbup: :funny:
POOH-BAAH :eek:
POO-POOHHH BABAHHH :laugh:
I'm on my knees!!! :cool: