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Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 5:59 pm
by Kurt
I am missing the four rubber grommets that go into the lower edge of the tank, two on each side. Also, two of the four bullets are missing from the side panels that press into those grommets. I can't quite make it out from the parts book. Drawing no. 34, item 4, p/n 037083020 looks right for the grommet, but the book calls for two only (two for each side, I guess). In drawing no. 35 for the body panels, I don't see the bullets at all.

So my question is, are these parts available, or just improvise from local sources?

Thanks again,

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:40 pm
by persempre907
I have recently bought those 4 rubber grommets at the Ducati dealer (yes, they are 2 for every side).
I don't think the bullets of the side fairings were sold as spare part because I don't see them on the parts' catalog.
Ciao

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 6:48 pm
by Kurt
Thanks, Francesco,

Genuine parts + improvisation = ride time!

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:59 am
by jcslocum
They are called well nuts. You can prolly find them at HD or Lowes. Maybe a good New England hardware store!

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 1:18 am
by samandkimberly
I'm not so sure everyone is talking about the same thing here. Along each side of the bottom of the gas tank are two holes not for Wellnuts, but for something much bigger. They're on the bottom edge, not the front/bottom edge, where the Wellnuts go. On the mating area of my side panels are two sanded down areas that look like they once could have had plastic pins of some sort that snapped into the side of the gas tank. They are very nicely painted, so my bike either never has anything there, or had a accident at some point and the repair shop removed them. I've always figured the latter because, while I can't find any evidence of a crash the bodywork just never fits right.

I'd love to see a pic of what they look like; I'd copy them.


Sam

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:37 am
by Laddie907
the rubber "top hats" that plug into the fairing (most common type fastener) are often on ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/DUCATI-PASO-RUBBER- ... .m63.l1177
I'm not sure on a good supplier for the actual screw??? any ideas???

The slot at the bottom of the tank takes a rubber spacer (I think) to stop the panel "chafing" the tank...[they weren't in mine, either] I made a few plugs from rubber and this does the trick...

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 7:31 am
by Finnpaso
Its not so bad idea to look spare part catalogue and write part number here... Then everybody knows, what person means... :thumbup:

Those wellnuts can be found in many hardware stores and cheaper, than from Ducati dealer, what have them also. Normally more of them makes disscount to price (at least here!) :smoke:

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:53 am
by persempre907
He doesn't mean the wellnuts.
He needs those ring shape grommets where the side fairings fix to the tank.
I found them easily at the Ducati dealer because they are also used by other Ducatis, if I well remember.
The fairings' bullets don't are sold as spare part, I guess, but you can buy some used side fairings from 750/906/907 (all the 3 are good) which are sold quite cheaply on eBay or elsewhere.
No matter, you can think something up.
Ciao

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:41 pm
by Kurt
persempre907 wrote:He doesn't mean the wellnuts.
He needs those ring shape grommets where the side fairings fix to the tank.
I found them easily at the Ducati dealer because they are also used by other Ducatis, if I well remember.
The fairings' bullets don't are sold as spare part, I guess, but you can buy some used side fairings from 750/906/907 (all the 3 are good) which are sold quite cheaply on eBay or elsewhere.
No matter, you can think something up.
Ciao
Thanks again, Francesco -- that's what I'm talkin' 'bout!

My Duc dealer has ordered the grommets for me (see first post for P/N), and I'll improvise on the bullets (no P/N available). I'll take some pics today and post them for all to see.

And yes, Jon -- browsing those pull-out nut-and-bolt drawers at the hardware store is a treasured pass time. Our local Ace Hardware even let's you go "out back" and poke around by yourself -- Heaven! :D

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 12:59 pm
by Kurt
samandkimberly wrote:I'm not so sure everyone is talking about the same thing here. Along each side of the bottom of the gas tank are two holes not for Wellnuts, but for something much bigger. They're on the bottom edge, not the front/bottom edge, where the Wellnuts go. On the mating area of my side panels are two sanded down areas that look like they once could have had plastic pins of some sort that snapped into the side of the gas tank. They are very nicely painted, so my bike either never has anything there, or had a accident at some point and the repair shop removed them. I've always figured the latter because, while I can't find any evidence of a crash the bodywork just never fits right.

I'd love to see a pic of what they look like; I'd copy them.


Sam
Hi Sam -- looks like we are both in Boston -- I'm in Arlington MA, and never see Pasos on the road. There were two at Tutto Italiano Day at Larz Anderson back in August -- were you one of them? One parked behind my Monster and we chatted for a minute, the 907 had red handgrips -- was that you?

http://www.larzanderson.org

my NEDOC post:
Phatty came by about 7 and we rode the 12 miles to Concord, gray skies, dry roads, had breakfast at Main Street’s Market & Café. (Breakfast review: It was good.)

http://www.mainstreetsmarketandcafe.com/
(See thread on Breakfast Destinations http://nedoc.org/forums/index.php?topic=856.0)

My S4R and his 1098S across the street from said destination:
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Then we made a bit of a loop out to Carlisle to 225 to 27 to 119 to MM, nice empty Sunday morning roads.

The crowd gathers and the skies brighten at MM. Little did we know at the time that we were looking at the eventual 1st Place Bike:
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Must have been nearly 20 at MM that headed to Larz, split pretty soon into two groups.

Pulled in at Larz:
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A couple of clean 907s showed up, one pulled up right behind my S4R. (I'm looking for a 907 to replace the one I traded away, let me know if you hear of any FS.)
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Count 'em -- six!
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MV Brutale looking sharp:
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Benelli, too:
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Nice Guzzi, bit gaudy, but I liked it:
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Some yellow in the sea of red:
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I'll end with a Spectator's Choice:
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Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:35 pm
by Finnpaso
I would also vote that last foto! GREAT :thumbup:

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 2:48 pm
by Kurt
Finnpaso wrote:Its not so bad idea to look spare part catalogue and write part number here... Then everybody knows, what person means... :thumbup:
:smoke:
Please see my first post in this thread with the P/N info you desire! :)

Pics of the bits we're discussing:

Empty holes in bottom edge of tank where the grommets fit to take the "bullet" which is not illustrated or listed in the parts catalogue. As you can see, I have one of two. Note also chafing as described by Laddie907.
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Inside of panel. Looks like bullet threads onto stud which is glued onto the panel. Has anyone made these or found substitutes? Must be something at the hardware store ...
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Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:33 pm
by Finnpaso
Check again You microfilm(like i did just)!

If You need those rubbers to lower part of fuel tank, they ordering code is: 036191730(rubber pad). I think You can get such very easily from Ducati dealer.

Your item number: 037083020 (from U first mail) is totally another rubber, what comes around lower part of frame to protect fairings(inside) agains to hit to frame. Those are not so important....they belong to drawing 23. / part nr. 11.

Tip: there is in the end of microfilm listed ALL spare part numbers and shown right picture / number of part where they are shown..... :smoke:

Btw, dont think too much AMOUNT of parts, cause there are plenty of mistakes/misunderstoods in those.... Order as many, as You need! :thumbup:

Those "bullets" belong to fairings and they are not listed in spare parts, so You can do suchs by Your own hands quite easily.... :mrgreen:

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 5:42 pm
by Kurt
Finnpaso wrote:Check again You microfilm(like i did just)! If You need those rubbers to lower part of fuel tank, they ordering code is: 036191730(rubber pad). I think You can get such very easily from Ducati dealer. Those "bullets" belong to fairings and they are not listed in spare parts, so You can do suchs by Your own hands quite easily.... :mrgreen:
Thanks! So, in drawing 34, the part shown as "4" should be labeled "42"

On the bullets, I can measure them and post a drawing with dimensions in case anyone thinks we should make them up (Sam mentioned). One of our local club members runs a machine shop, too. If there appears to be need and demand, that is. It's been a while (decades) since I've done any lathe work myself. :D

Re: Bits for attaching side panels to tank

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 6:23 pm
by Finnpaso
Surely with lathe is very simple to make such parts, but if You can(WANT!) play with Pasos, then You can also make such easy part from metal in Your garrage table... It takes about 30 mins to make such, if U have some basic tools, not lathe.... Take some beers and time goes faster, when U make it! :thumbup: