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facing a bend

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:24 am
by ducapaso
I've always been told I'm a "slow rider" because I don't use the entire tread of my rear tyre...
My last experience is the evidence it's impossible to exploit completely my 17" racing tire with paso!
This is the exaust line, the collar and its nut
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this is the rear prospective (can you image the grinding angle?)
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Here's a detail of the nut
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Is grinding the exaust nut enough to show the limit? :mrgreen: :lol: :evil: :twisted:

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:17 pm
by Johnnie
riding style can effect lean angle. the style of riding where you hang off the side of the bike in corners can increase cornering speed without increasing the lean angle. this method allows a rider to corner faster when he has run out of ground clearance, so you were either doing this before or its time to do it now. theres nothing more satisfying than when you start scrapping parts on the ground. when I used to race bikes back in the 80s my lap times dropped slowly as I ground away more parts on my bike. have fun John

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:24 am
by persempre907
ducapaso wrote:I've always been told I'm a "slow rider" because I don't use the entire tread of my rear tyre...
I agree with your friends: you have to be a very "cancello" (still rider)... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ciao :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:45 am
by ducapaso
persempre907 wrote:
ducapaso wrote:I've always been told I'm a "slow rider" because I don't use the entire tread of my rear tyre...
I agree with your friends: you have to be a very "cancello" (still rider)... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Ciao :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
"still rider" doesn't sounds so expressive than cancello (it means "iron gate"! :,( )
I might be that, but I'd like to have a look to YOUR exaust bolts :P :-P :P :-P

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 10:17 am
by persempre907
No problem! For sure, my exhaust bolt has his stock shape.
I never dropped the bike and at least, some wear could be made by the previous owner :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .
Ciao

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:49 pm
by Finnpaso
Nice discussion... :lol:

Frankie: You have updated Your "sign" :thumbup: , but can it be, that your red 907 is 91 and new black one is 92 ???? :mrgreen:

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 2:16 pm
by persempre907
Finnpaso wrote:but can it be, that your red 907 is 91 and new black one is 92 ???? :mrgreen:
If you mean the year of production, probably you're right.
In the papers, it turns out they are registered on 1992 and 1993.
But, on the tank of the black 907 is engraved 1991...
Ciao

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:04 pm
by Finnpaso
That 10. number/letter in VIN code means here in Europe manuafacturing year and in USA bikes it means year modell..... I havent check it from my Pasos, but in ST series bikes its just so.... It reads in ST2 and ST4S workshop manuals very clearly.... My "EU" ST2 is 2001 modell, but build in 2000(10. = Y) and my "EU" ST4S is 2002 build in 2002 (10. = 2). As i told, this is in ST series and also other same time area(and later) Ducatis.... :smoke:

Anyway 907IEs with black front Brembos are 91 modell and with gold Brembos 92 modells, no matter, when they have put to street use...

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 6:27 pm
by persempre907
Finnpaso wrote:Anyway 907IEs with black front Brembos are 91 modell and with gold Brembos 92 modells, no matter, when they have put to street use...
...but many 907 were also built on 1990 :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: .
Ciao

Re: facing a bend

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 5:35 am
by Laddie907
so you're not using the edge of the tyre? peer pressure getting to you? simple solution...
take an angle grinder and take the tyre edge right off with that...while you're at it grind a bit off the footpegs and maybe a touch off the handlebars, too...finish with a rough rasp for effect.
Bingo - you're a racer!!
then when your buddies say you ride too slow tell them the bike hasn't got enough ground clearance and show them the evidence...lol

back to reality; in fact - the exhaust grounding is not good - I have seen some 4 cylinder bikes go to ground because the "fixed" exhaust lifts the wheels off in the corner...not nice.
Harleys suffer from insufficient cornering clearance and will grind the cases even under moderate cornering.
I would suggest you rotate the clamp for a bit more clearance.

I have screwed my shockie right up hard; I can get to the tyre edge occasionally but this is by using the rear brake in the corner (which allows the bike to crank over a bit more).
It also depends on your tyre profile..mine is a Michelin 170/60ZR17; wider profiles give more clearance but are harder to "peg" with...I have never pegged the 907 but have had my toes scrape

the only bike I could truly "peg" was a TZ350 Yamaha, on racing slicks...
I was told NEVER to use the brakes in corners with slicks (rightly or wrongly) and just keep pushing the bike over in the corner...
I wore off the pegs and the toes of my boots with that bike - but never won a race in my whole racing career...go figure!!