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Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:08 pm
by Bomber
Any of you Guys know where to get the relays with fuses for the injectors
My 92 907ie will occaisionally not fire up, has no spark at either plug, fuel pump runs and engine spins ok.
When the bike does starts it runs fine.
I have found the 15A fuse is a loose fit in one of the injector relays hence my intermittent starting (Hot or Cold).
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Cheers
Gerry

Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:17 am
by h1a
Hi.
This matter has been discussed before and I think it is difficult to find replacement part for relays with buildt in fuses.
I had the same problem on mine, one of the fuses had melted because of the bad connection, what i did was buying some ordinary
5 pin relay and also an fuseholder witch i mounted on the aluminumplate abowe the relays. Never had a problem since.
Håvard
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:17 pm
by Bomber
Thanks Havard,
Do you know the spec of the relays you used ?
Cheers
Gerry

Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Tue Apr 21, 2009 8:29 pm
by h1a
It is a couple of year since i bought them but i belive it is this:
http://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/product/173
Håvard
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:06 pm
by Finnpaso
NO, it CANT be such relay !!!! I take just out ORIGINAL relay from my 907IE and pins 30 and 86 have to locate VIA VERSA !!!!! Another is for primary circuit and and another is for secondary circuit, so they CANT BE mixed at all.....

Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:41 pm
by Bomber
Thanks for the info Guys
Havard, I understand this relay worked in your bike ?
Antti,has discovered that pins 86 & 30 are shown to be reversed on the relay diagram !
I Have checked the diagram showing the internals of the relay and it matches the 907ie schematic.
Confused !
I have found another relay, it shows the same way!!!
Help please.
Gerry
http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20She ... 2791-1.pdf
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:51 pm
by h1a
Hi.
Yes i can confirm i used this relay, forgot to mention I had to swap the two cabels in the base socket to match the new relay, so it is not a stright swap but it was an quite simple job to do as far as i can remember.
I will try to post some pictures as soon as I can, maybe in a couple of weeks.
Håvard
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:24 pm
by ducbertus
I have bought two relais with build in fuses of Ripaults.
problem with these is that they are not as closed as the originals, who have a cover over the fuse. Not sure about the part number, but will look it up and post it for those who are interrested.
ducbertus
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 5:19 pm
by Bomber
Thanks again for the info guys !
Will keep looking to see if it is still possible to get such a relay!
Will await your reply in eager anticipation
Gerry
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 2:47 pm
by Finnpaso
Bomber wrote:Thanks for the info Guys
Havard, I understand this relay worked in your bike ?
Antti,has discovered that pins 86 & 30 are shown to be reversed on the relay diagram !
I Have checked the diagram showing the internals of the relay and it matches the 907ie schematic.
Confused !
I have found another relay, it shows the same way!!!
Help please.
Gerry
http://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20She ... 2791-1.pdf
I just check Your link database and there is just same fault, as pins 30 and 86 should been via versa....

I hava agian original 907IE relay out from my bike and i double check pins just.
Solution is just, as Harvard told to change 2 pins location in relay base wirings

but those primary and secondary circuits CANT BE MIXED, as then its "shortcut"

Btw, i can see very clearly original relays pins numbers close pins under relay, so i stay in my taughts....

Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 3:01 pm
by Finnpaso
Gerry, i found another problem from Your datasheet(that link):
Original relay use 2 output pins(87/NO/Normal Open)) (both are numbered as 87 !!!), BUT your datasheet("datashit"

) relay have only one 87 output as 87 is NO(Normal Open) and 87a is NC(Normal Closed) pins...... still can be modified, hahahahaha.... but i would search better relay to my 907IE...

Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 7:15 pm
by Bomber
Guys,
Have looked everywhere to get same relay & cant find any, BUT have just phoned my local Ducati shop today and the parts guy thinks he has these relays !!!!! with fuses.
I have ordered 2, and will let you know if they are th correct relays !
If they are correct i will find out if he has more.
Two relays will cost £28, here in Scotland.
Gerry
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:09 pm
by Finnpaso
Let us know, what is result !

Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:19 pm
by Bomber

Got 2 new injector relays from Ducati, they work fine
Cost only £20 for two not £28 as I was first told !
Would post some images but can not get the images into the post
All pins etc are the correct way.
The Manufaturer is Italamec
If anyone can tell me how to post images, I can show the relay !
Cheers
Gerry
Re: Need Part No for Injector Relays ! ?
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 6:54 pm
by Bomber
Just saw the instructions on how to upload images, so here goes.
Dont know yet if the guy at Ducati has more, if any one needs them !
Gerry