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replacing starter
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:20 pm
by hellogrish
hello there,
guys, I`ve got a problem with starting the bike.
after pressing "start" I can hear only "crunck" (or sth like that

from the "starter solenoid"
It helped some times when I get into 2 or 3 gear, release the clutch and push a little bit Paso.
now, I have to hit the starter (that small thing under the engine)..
so, it`s problem with starter

I`m going to have it serviced next week.
but the question is: should be the oil let off before removing the starter?
I`m asking cause I`m going to change oil and oil filter and dont know whether to do it before
or after service
another question is: how often should be the oil & filter changed?
I got my Paso last year (soon there will be anniversary

) and changed this stuff about 11months ago.
I havent ride a lot, only about 6000km...
what do you think about it?
regards
greg
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 2:56 pm
by Tamburinifan
So when you tap the starter, it will start?
And solenoid clicks everytime?
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:39 pm
by hellogrish
yes, solenoid always click,
and I have to hit even a little bit starter to have the engine start after pressing "start"
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:25 pm
by paso750
do not hit the starter !
probably your starter brushes are worn and need replacement
http://forums.ducatipaso.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2573
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:35 pm
by hellogrish
if I dont hit it wont start

so...
but is it harmfull for bike?
thanks for great info about parts replacement!
and what about oil?
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 7:06 pm
by paso750
look in the user manual
oil change according to manual every 3000km
do you have to drain the oil to remove the starter? I would do so.
is hitting your starter harmful for your bike ? For your starter it can be. If the brushes are worn and you hit the starter the brushes can jump out their guide and cant which can ruin the rotor.
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 12:21 am
by Tamburinifan
is hitting your starter harmful for your bike ? For your starter it can be. If the brushes are worn and you hit the starter the brushes can jump out their guide and cant which can ruin the rotor.
I disgree.
Brushes are hold in place by pretty strong springs which works even when brushes are very worn.
But it is not a good way to start.
I also belives brushes are worn.
If you remove all in front of starter cover, you can open it and replace brushes.
No need to drain oil f that.
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:57 am
by jcslocum
do a seach in the forum but there is some info here:
http://forums.ducatipaso.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2573
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:39 am
by silverfox
Do not hit the starter !!!!! ever !
You will break the permanent magnets inside.
These starters don't have copper winding field coils, they have solid magnets that will shatter to pieces if your hit the outside case.
On car starters you could "tap" the solenoid on the outside because they sometimes stick, your solenoid is under the seat and is probably ok.
Drain the oil, take off the right hand side cover (two of the starter bolts are under there - one thru a hole in a cog) and remove the starter and get it checked.
Hopefully the magnets are ok.
Tony
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:20 am
by jcslocum
Sitting on the bike it's the left cover :-)
But it's 99% the brushes and they can be replace with the starter in the bike.
Re: replacing starter
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:04 am
by ducapaso
I posted detailed instructions for brushes replacing... but I can't remember the subject!
If you need, I can search in my backup and post again...