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charging system & those crazy wires

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:15 pm
by bobst2
i have been reading about regulator wireing & coil rewireing.
i am a little confused? i put in the new igntion box bike no longer dies when it warms up and starts better.
but have noticed that the longer i ride battery slowley is going down.

the alternator/stator one lead goes directly to the vertical coil ? are they feeding the coils direct
and feeding back to the regulator after?

in the rewireing of the coils the install of the relay & fuse makes sence it should provide full battery voltage to the coils.

i used an avr to try to test charging amps seemed low under 18A at 3500rpm & only about 4 at an idle.
are the two problems connected and does anyone have testing procedures for stator & regulator

Re: charging system & those crazy wires

Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2011 8:32 pm
by desmodave
bobst2 wrote:i have been reading about regulator wireing & coil rewireing.
i am a little confused? i put in the new igntion box bike no longer dies when it warms up and starts better.
but have noticed that the longer i ride battery slowley is going down.

the alternator/stator one lead goes directly to the vertical coil ? are they feeding the coils direct
and feeding back to the regulator after?

in the rewireing of the coils the install of the relay & fuse makes sence it should provide full battery voltage to the coils.

i used an avr to try to test charging amps seemed low under 18A at 3500rpm & only about 4 at an idle.
are the two problems connected and does anyone have testing procedures for stator & regulator
hi theres a tests for stator and reg in the f.a.q on this site ---this proble has dogged me since i got the bike 4 batt and two regs later still cussing main prob is it doesnt dump excess voltage causing the sapped and blown regs-----im looking at so called mosfets r1 fjr regs maybe the way to go? there are of course happy riders on here but all our set ups are different --good luck!

Re: charging system & those crazy wires

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 4:24 pm
by jcslocum
bobst2 wrote:the alternator/stator one lead goes directly to the vertical coil ? are they feeding the coils direct and feeding back to the regulator after?
The stator wires should not go to the coils. They should go to the regulator.

The Paso is fitted with crappy electrics and needs a bit of care to get right. Cleaning all of the grounds is the first place to start. Pulle the body work and clean every ground tab and strap. There is one under the tank and one behind your right foot on the engine case. The neg battery cable may go to the frame first and then to the engine. Clean Clean Clean. Once you have done this, things may start to work better.

The stator wires are known to be very weak/undersized. Trace them fully and inspect EVERY connection for melting. If you find the plug even slightly melted or corroded, cut and solder the joint direct.

Re: charging system & those crazy wires

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 9:32 pm
by Mc tool
As Jon says clean clean clean those connections . Also worth checking out is the earth cable from the battery to the frame/engine. Mine had a bad join where the terminal was crimped onto the cable right at the battery and I bought a new battery and starter motor brushes that I didnt need before I twigged ( actually some body told me almost exactly where to look ). When starting became sluggish I blamed the battery and used jumper leads to start it off another battery so I bought the new battery ..... no better .... new brushes ... no better , but every time I jump started it ... no problems , starter wound over great. I had been connecting the earth jumper lead to the footpeg bracket ...... thus unwittingly bypassing the faulty earth lead..... ho hum :mad:

Re: charging system & those crazy wires

Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:56 pm
by higgy
Well, Crappy electrics is a bit further than I would go but it does get the point across. After all we are not talking Lucas electrics :thumbup: and it ain't no harley. Not that I have anything against a harley :roll:
The place to start is cleaning every single connection,just the same as you would do on any project that starts out being 20 years or more since leaving the factory.
It is not a hard thing to do,but it will take some time to accomplish. Time well spent and well worth the effort. Cleaning every single connection and removing any corrosion will go a long way to making you realize just exactly how much you are going to enjoy one of these bikes.

You will find everything you need here to make your ownership of one of the rarest machines on the planet well worth whatever you spend and make no mistake, If you do spend the time and keep your money you will find one of the very best roads two wheels can offer :beer: :beer: :beer:

Re: charging system & those crazy wires

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:51 pm
by bobst2
apon a further inspection. i am an idiot :oops: they are not interconnected. thanks