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Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 12:56 pm
by ducmen9
Hello frinds,
I'm trying to assamble a 5,5 wheel into my 750Sport. I will use a 170 tyre.
Now I have the problem the sprocket is as much as more close to the swing arm like the original sprocket (16" wheel).
What can I do to get the exactly "chainline" back? Do I need a special sprocket for the engine side?
Thomas
Re: Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:44 pm
by ved
Hi Thomas,
here is a short report about the conversion.
http://www.ducati-club-cavallo.de/technik/750s.htm
Perhaps helpful for you
ved
Re: Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Tue May 21, 2013 6:54 pm
by ducinthebay
Use the sprocket carrier from the 4.5" wheel.
Both sprocket carriers start from the same casting, but the one for the 4.5" rim gets machined down more on the sprocket face, putting the chainline more inboard. If you have the two in your hand, you can see the difference. Chain runs close to the rear tire, but that's OK. Even light rubbing is acceptable (keeps your chain clean)
The 4.5" wheel was commonly on 5 speed engines, and the 5.5" wheels were on the 6 speed engines. The countershaft sprocket on the 6 speed sits a bit more outboard than the 5 speed. Hence the different sprocket carriers.
Usually cheap on e-bay, and often with a sprocket attached, and the spacers included.
Sorry, I don't know the part numbers.
Just a word of caution. Do you know about the odd wheel spacers on those wheel sets? The last one on the sprocket side mounts what appears to be backward. The big flat side touches the swing arm, and the cone side goes to the wheel to touch off on the ID of the bearing on the sprocket carrier. Lots of people get this wrong and ruin the swing arm and rear wheel bearings.
Cheers,
Re: Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:53 am
by ducmen9
Hello ducinthebay,
thank you very much for your replay!
I have both sprocket carriers so I can try it yet. But is it nessesary also to use an other engine side sproket to fix the distance or can I forget the distance? I Think it is a difference of approx. 8mm between org. and 4,5" sprocket carrier.
Cheers
Thomas
Re: Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:51 pm
by Mc tool
Re: Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 10:35 pm
by ducinthebay
Certainly check the chainline when you do this modification. A bad alignment will destroy a chain quickly, often with bad results.
- Center the wheel by measuring from the axle to the pivot pin on both sides to make sure the wheel is square, and aligned in the swing arm properly. (there's a tool for that if you want)
http://www.rhinomoto.com/tools.html
- Use a laser with magnet base attached to your rear sprocket to align to the front sprocket. (you can buy such a thing on line exactly for this purpose).
http://toolmonger.com/2006/12/19/reader ... profi-cat/
I have used both of these on my last build and they work great.
Make adjustments of parts from there. There are some dished front C/S sprockets that will put the chain line outside even more. They came on the early 750 Sports before they shifted the motor over in the frame with spacers. Not easy to find, but a few members have some sitting on their shelves.
McTool, your sprocket looks to be put on backwards, but that would certainly get the chain inboard more. Lots of room to machine off material on that side for fine adjustment.
Cheers, Phil
Re: Problem to fit a 5,5" wheel to a 750 Sport
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 3:17 am
by Mc tool
ducinthebay wrote:McTool, your sprocket looks to be put on backwards, but that would certainly get the chain inboard more. Lots of room to machine off material on that side for fine adjustment.
Cheers, Phil
Its the right way round for me with standard (16" ) wheels , I even had to pack the rear sprocket out 1mm to get proper alignment ,which was one of the 1st things I noticed when I bought the bike......both the sprockets were wearing on one side more than the other ....front on the outside and rear on the inside .... nothing major but easily put right and anyhow I was itchin' to have fiddle with something.... shee-it!, did I ever get the right bike for that !
there aint nothin' that has not been fiddled with