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Never dropped a Paso, but today it happened.

Was coming to a 3 way, with my street being at about 60 deg to the main street,
and a 20 year old cut the turn, coming in my lane.

Braked hard and he missed me by a palm or so,
but the bike started leaning and it went far enough that I couldn't hold it.

So I put it down slowly, as I listened to the turn signal lens crack.
Obviously some scratches on the mirror and since it came off it scratched the windscreen
near the mounting, some scratches on the oil cooler cover, and on the clutch lever.

All pretty light, and it could have been a whole lot worse but I'm pissed nonetheless.

This BMW poser's insurance is supposed to pay but I'm concerned about paint matching,
this being the orig. paint. Any tips on that? On the windscreen, can they paint around
the orig. decal without it looking silly?


Regarding keeping the bike upright when it already leaned part of the way.
I needed to use my legs to push it back up (after I destroyed my back to get it to knee level ,
but obviously when it's starting to lean, catching it with one's legs is not always an option.
Any other ideas, besides working out, eating spinach and all that.

PS: There was a bit of fuel on the street, but also some oil.

Any idea where the oil would come from?

Starts, drives fine.

And the picture.

left side..? Wild guess: the spot where the cables run trough the alternator cover..?

Brutus wrote:left side..? Wild guess: the spot where the cables run trough the alternator cover..?

Have to wait for the insurance guy to inventory the damage, then I'll pull the fairing.

There was some oil on the front exhaust.

Otherwise I couldn't really see anything. But it's fine mechanically.

After swapping in some new turn signal lenses, it's not that bad.

Amazing they don't get more damage considering the full fairing.
Paso mirrors are more than just mirrors - they're side bumpers.
Put an air bag in there and you could drop it daily with nary a scratch.

The bolt on replacements are probably not as good at self sacrificing themselves.

Since gasoline was dumped from the overflow on the exhaust,
I was wondering if any Paso's caught on fire like this?

With Ferrari's, and I guess other mid-engine cars, it's quite a common occurrence
to end up with a big fire from gasoline on a hot exhaust.

Brutus wrote:left side..? Wild guess: the spot where the cables run trough the alternator cover..?

Some oil also came out of the oil breather tube.
That hose is not in the best shape.

Can someone who knows this stuff, explain why it dumped that oil through the breather tube.
It dumps it if there is too much crankcase pressure, right?

As I recall the engine was still running when I put it down,
at very least the key was in the ON position. I think it died before I pushed it back up,
then I turned the key. This took maybe 30-60 sec.

Engine oil level was to the high mark before. It doesn't look much dif. now

There was about half a palm of fuel stain and about a quarter palm oil stain on the ground.

Drove it about 30kms today. Didn't notice anything strange.

At the base of the breather is a separator valve meant to allow the oil vapors in the crankcase to settle out of the air.
When you put the engine on its side oil leaks trough the valve and out the hose and ends up in the big black tank in front of the battery which is meant to collect what oil does not get separated out. You most likely just dumped out what was in that black tank...thick and black

higgy wrote:At the base of the breather is a separator valve meant to allow the oil vapors in the crankcase to settle out of the air.
When you put the engine on its side oil leaks trough the valve and out the hose and ends up in the big black tank in front of the battery which is meant to collect what oil does not get separated out. You most likely just dumped out what was in that black tank...thick and black

Thanks, higgy.

If you want to match the paint, take the bike or a panel to an automotive paint store. They can use a spectrometer to match the paint perfectly. You can order new decals from England and are not that expensive. I think I paid about $80 US for the entire set but you can order a specific one and just pay for that one or two. Let me know and I can give you the paint code for a red '87 Paso and can give you the company's name for the decals. I went through all this when I top sided my Paso two years ago thanks to the 14 year old slick tires.

I went through all this when I top sided my Paso two years ago thanks to the 14 year old slick tires.

Like the ones plasmid ist still using ... ?

At the base of the breather is a separator valve meant to allow the oil vapors in the crankcase to settle out of the air.

Which one is that ? The round part mounted on the crankcase is just a hose connector. There`s no valve in it.

paso750 wrote:

I went through all this when I top sided my Paso two years ago thanks to the 14 year old slick tires.

Like the ones plasmid ist still using ... ?

If I was going faster and slid I guess you could call it a low side.

I was going about 10-15km/h and coming to a full stop, when the guy turned directly into me.
I don't recall the full details since there was no time to respond consciously,
but I had to turn the front wheel to the max which gave me about a palm of clearance.
If you can't hold the bike up after it leaned part of the way,
you'll dump it standing it still.

At the base of the breather is a separator valve meant to allow the oil vapors in the crankcase to settle out of the air.

Which one is that ? The round part mounted on the crankcase is just a hose connector. There`s no valve in it.

Right side hose going to the oil separator.

Jeffreyt wrote:If you want to match the paint, take the bike or a panel to an automotive paint store. They can use a spectrometer to match the paint perfectly. You can order new decals from England and are not that expensive. I think I paid about $80 US for the entire set but you can order a specific one and just pay for that one or two. Let me know and I can give you the paint code for a red '87 Paso and can give you the company's name for the decals. I went through all this when I top sided my Paso two years ago thanks to the 14 year old slick tires.

Code would be great.

I know where to get the decals.



BTW - anyone have codes for the gun metal color at the bottom of the fairing, on the forks, on the exhausts?

the paint I got is Dupont ChromaBase BC, Blaze Red
563444 K H

850J 88.0 88.0
802J 100.9 12.9
866J 112.1 11.2
150K 352.1 240.0
175K 432.2 80.1

VS:2 VOC-LE: 5.7 VOC-AP: 4.8

I hope that helps

Jeffreyt wrote:the paint I got is Dupont ChromaBase BC, Blaze Red
563444 K H

850J 88.0 88.0
802J 100.9 12.9
866J 112.1 11.2
150K 352.1 240.0
175K 432.2 80.1

VS:2 VOC-LE: 5.7 VOC-AP: 4.8

I hope that helps

Can you clarify what the codes after the first line are