750 Paso Value
"No commuting or touring just one or two hour blasts in the twistys around home."
For sure I will, just limited mileage. I certainly won't waste the opportunity to ride a bike I've always wanted. I also won't miss the opportunity to take it to the local pub and let it sit out front and blaze in the sun either (with a lock on it of course). I may trailer it to the Dragon too. (deals gap)
"I continue thinking the Pasos will not increase too much their worth."
I'm not suggesting that it will increase as much as some. But I can't buy any of those mentioned for $3000 with 5000 miles either. Is a 58 Corvette worth as much as a 58 Ferrari? Nope. But a very nice origional 58 corvette still will bring over $100,000 in the right circumstance. Sure, that not $1 million, but does that mean it was a bad investment? How much did that 58 Corvette cost in 1976? Likely about 7-10 grand.
What I'm suggesting that although collecting cars and some bikes is nothing new, there's two elements to the puzzle that we must consider. First is a worldwide market place for all to see. The first rule, limited supply, abundant demand. Ebay will not go away, it will only grow and spawn competition. Secondly, because we are (or may be) a tad younger than the average collector, does that mean we are not seeing opportunities right in front of our faces? Am I the only one who's heard numerous people say "I really wish I'd hung onto to that Camaro I had in high school!" well how many have said, like perhaps you "I waited 15 years for a Paso""I've always wanted a Paso" etc..., The Paso may have not been a sales success, but it certainly was a marketing success. On ebay right now there about 6 different magazines with the Paso on the cover "Itally declares war on Japan" etc. It's appeal and awareness in the general public always outstripped it's sales success and capabilities. There's only one Ducati that I 've ever really wanted, am I alone? Hardly.
I believe the following: 1) The Paso is not and will not be the most saught after collectable in the future 2)However, the bike is loved and fondly remembered by many, it has a large following 3)While an obscure race bike may bring the most money at auction, there may be 150 true potential worldwide buyers that know what it is. For a Paso there will be 1500 just in the US. Will it sell for $100,000 is 20 years? No, but I'll bet it'll sell for $15,000 or more in todays' dollars.
This is the low ebb of the market. Do yourselves a favor, go buy a 1984 Nissan 300XZ anniversary edition with 60,000 miles for $5,000 and park it. All it takes it what was saught after when young but couldn't afford it, but now older with disposable income and the desire to recapture youth. All something needs is somebody old enough to remember what is, what is was, what it meant, and this statement "I always wanted one, but I couldn't afford it, now I can" (anybody remember the sound an 8 track player makes? Does that take you instantly back?)
I'll hang onto it as planned. I will sell it if and when the market conditions are right. In any case I suspect it will be much better than a 4% interest on a savings accounts. I will tool around on it, show it off, and scrape a knee or two. But it will be returned to true pristine and stay that way.
Did I mention there's 10 inches of snow outside of my front door?
For sure I will, just limited mileage. I certainly won't waste the opportunity to ride a bike I've always wanted. I also won't miss the opportunity to take it to the local pub and let it sit out front and blaze in the sun either (with a lock on it of course). I may trailer it to the Dragon too. (deals gap)
"I continue thinking the Pasos will not increase too much their worth."
I'm not suggesting that it will increase as much as some. But I can't buy any of those mentioned for $3000 with 5000 miles either. Is a 58 Corvette worth as much as a 58 Ferrari? Nope. But a very nice origional 58 corvette still will bring over $100,000 in the right circumstance. Sure, that not $1 million, but does that mean it was a bad investment? How much did that 58 Corvette cost in 1976? Likely about 7-10 grand.
What I'm suggesting that although collecting cars and some bikes is nothing new, there's two elements to the puzzle that we must consider. First is a worldwide market place for all to see. The first rule, limited supply, abundant demand. Ebay will not go away, it will only grow and spawn competition. Secondly, because we are (or may be) a tad younger than the average collector, does that mean we are not seeing opportunities right in front of our faces? Am I the only one who's heard numerous people say "I really wish I'd hung onto to that Camaro I had in high school!" well how many have said, like perhaps you "I waited 15 years for a Paso""I've always wanted a Paso" etc..., The Paso may have not been a sales success, but it certainly was a marketing success. On ebay right now there about 6 different magazines with the Paso on the cover "Itally declares war on Japan" etc. It's appeal and awareness in the general public always outstripped it's sales success and capabilities. There's only one Ducati that I 've ever really wanted, am I alone? Hardly.
I believe the following: 1) The Paso is not and will not be the most saught after collectable in the future 2)However, the bike is loved and fondly remembered by many, it has a large following 3)While an obscure race bike may bring the most money at auction, there may be 150 true potential worldwide buyers that know what it is. For a Paso there will be 1500 just in the US. Will it sell for $100,000 is 20 years? No, but I'll bet it'll sell for $15,000 or more in todays' dollars.
This is the low ebb of the market. Do yourselves a favor, go buy a 1984 Nissan 300XZ anniversary edition with 60,000 miles for $5,000 and park it. All it takes it what was saught after when young but couldn't afford it, but now older with disposable income and the desire to recapture youth. All something needs is somebody old enough to remember what is, what is was, what it meant, and this statement "I always wanted one, but I couldn't afford it, now I can" (anybody remember the sound an 8 track player makes? Does that take you instantly back?)
I'll hang onto it as planned. I will sell it if and when the market conditions are right. In any case I suspect it will be much better than a 4% interest on a savings accounts. I will tool around on it, show it off, and scrape a knee or two. But it will be returned to true pristine and stay that way.
Did I mention there's 10 inches of snow outside of my front door?
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Take care not to slip, spoiling your investment.Did I mention there's 10 inches of snow outside of my front door?
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Each market has his rules, even if, by now we are quite in a worldwide market.
For example, here in Italy, never a Nissan 300 ZX will be very appreciated. So, some other brand like Benelli...
But, perhaps so only in Italy!!!
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Francesco
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I have to open also my mouth now. I have read this topic and manykind of stories have been told here.... :laugh: :laugh: I want only say very shortly: Paso have never been in Ducati history very important bike! In those "Paso times", they had already much bigger plannigs with 4 valve Superbikes(851/888 series)for RACING(!!!!) and Pasos were only to start new "generation" to sell much more bikes, what they managed with F1 series around world with all "company problems".... Paso didnt sell as much as Ducati wanted, caused by full fairings(what "normal Ducati freaks" cant accept...), all problems, what it had, like too high price compared to jap bikes, carb. problems, etc, etc....They make big mistakes in factory in that time, when they launched Paso 750 after F1. That time company had very big problems to survie and that road can be very hard... Paso had to be "that bike", which take Ducati back again to big markets, but "unluckily", they launched bike, what had too many problems....
Anyway i have loved Pasos, especially 750 Paso all time, i have knows such bike have been in world... I am "Paso guy", no matter i have very powerfull ST4S(with tuned engine) and surely best "Paso", 907IE, which i love also very much, but not so much, as 750 Paso.....
I think, its not time now to think about Paso "prices"... We shall see, where things are going on in future, cause these bikes, like Pasos, people never put moneys to such "invest", that they use them some years(1-3) and then sell away... That never functin with Pasos. If U love Pasos, then U buy such and keep her in very good condition and after next 10-15 years You will see, what are "the markets", if You want to sell that bike to someone... Pasos are ALSO for "Ducati freaks", no matter little different way, as normal Ducati freaks, so If U find very good Paso (still), its not so bad investment for next 20 years(like i think my Pasos).... Maybe i never sell them away(cause its very stupid, cause i have used tooo much time to maintain them very well...)
I dont want to "hurt anybody" with my opinion, but i am realist also; Pasos are not so "high valued Ducatis", as many other modells, like 851/888 SP modells currently....
Ps, sorry Guys, if this was too complicated to understand, cause i was just in hot Fin sauna 3 hours and i drinked "little"(0,5L) Koskenkorva(38*), so "forgive me".... :laugh:
Anyway i have loved Pasos, especially 750 Paso all time, i have knows such bike have been in world... I am "Paso guy", no matter i have very powerfull ST4S(with tuned engine) and surely best "Paso", 907IE, which i love also very much, but not so much, as 750 Paso.....
I think, its not time now to think about Paso "prices"... We shall see, where things are going on in future, cause these bikes, like Pasos, people never put moneys to such "invest", that they use them some years(1-3) and then sell away... That never functin with Pasos. If U love Pasos, then U buy such and keep her in very good condition and after next 10-15 years You will see, what are "the markets", if You want to sell that bike to someone... Pasos are ALSO for "Ducati freaks", no matter little different way, as normal Ducati freaks, so If U find very good Paso (still), its not so bad investment for next 20 years(like i think my Pasos).... Maybe i never sell them away(cause its very stupid, cause i have used tooo much time to maintain them very well...)
I dont want to "hurt anybody" with my opinion, but i am realist also; Pasos are not so "high valued Ducatis", as many other modells, like 851/888 SP modells currently....

Ps, sorry Guys, if this was too complicated to understand, cause i was just in hot Fin sauna 3 hours and i drinked "little"(0,5L) Koskenkorva(38*), so "forgive me".... :laugh:
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Yes, but do "purests" ever understand economics?
Are these for the purests? What world championships did these win?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... B:EF:US:11
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... B:EF:US:11
Are these for the purests? What world championships did these win?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... B:EF:US:11
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... B:EF:US:11
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... In "land of hope and glory"( :laugh: ) there are allways such persons, who have enough money to put it to "something, like Ducati", no matter do they understand anything about motorbikes..... Prices of those Ebay bikes are high, CAUSE only few miles in dash...
Anyway i wouldnt put my moneys to such Ducatis, as those... Paso is much better invest, cause they are made for driving hardly, not for showrooms with few miles, or kms.... :laugh: Btw, can somewhere find parts to such parallel twin engine? :funny: :funny: :funny:

Antti http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeKOh3XoXPg&NR=1
KTM 990 Adventure -08 metal dark grey
Paso 750 -89 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red
2xST4S -02 red/metal grey
ST2 -01 red/metal grey
Volvo V70 Bi-Fuel Classic/titanium
KTM 990 Adventure -08 metal dark grey
Paso 750 -89 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red/metal grey
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...square case engine!.... :thumbdown: :thumbdown: :thumbdown: I think, very stupid to buy it for such money, but surely someone enough stupid would found.... :funny: :funny: :funny:
Antti http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeKOh3XoXPg&NR=1
KTM 990 Adventure -08 metal dark grey
Paso 750 -89 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red
2xST4S -02 red/metal grey
ST2 -01 red/metal grey
Volvo V70 Bi-Fuel Classic/titanium
KTM 990 Adventure -08 metal dark grey
Paso 750 -89 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red/metal grey
907IE -91 red
2xST4S -02 red/metal grey
ST2 -01 red/metal grey
Volvo V70 Bi-Fuel Classic/titanium
My general reference in all of this is Ebay's effect on used values. I know a little about Ducati's, a lot more about Jap bikes. But I've always known what a Paso is. I'll ride my Paso from time to time, but mostly my ZX11. If there are enough goofballs in the world (OK, US) that will spend nearly $6 grand on a POS 1978 P Twin Ducati, then I'm willing to bet that the famous Paso, with only 55 exactly like mine in the US, 2500 total imported into the US will do OK.