Mustergutachten BRD für Umrüstung auf 130/70-16 u. 160/70-16

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Re: Mustergutachten BRD für Umrüstung auf 130/70-16 u. 160/70-16

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it was vice versa to my knowledge. The F1 still had a 530 chain and with the Paso they switched to the 520 which was then kept also on the SS & Monster.

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Don´t take a 150 it`s too narrow and high. I didn´t have the chance to finish the bike yet so I didn`t order the tires yet.

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Hallo,

habe eine Paso 750 und habe mit Begesiterung diesen Thread gelesen.
Habe grade mit Pirelli / Metzeler telefoniert. Leider ohne Erfolg.

Könnte mir jemand dieses Mustergutachten bzw. die Unbedenklichkeitsbescheinigung zukommen lassen?

Brauche dringend Hilfe.

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schick mir mal deine e-mail Adresse per PM, dann schick ich dir die Sachen heute Abend.

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Now its up to me to switch the tires to other dimensions, because the profile runs flat this summer.

Question: Does anybody have experience in riding the 130/70-16 and 180/60-16 Avon combination?

How about the spacers under the rear sprocket? Doesn´t this influence the lifetime of the bearing, of the front sprocket, the chain and the front sprocket itself massively (because the system is no longer in line!!)?
If anybody got the permission of the german TÜV, could he/she please send me a copy of the bikes certificate (Fahrzeugbrief mit Einträgen)? It would be very helpful - told me the TÜV engineer!
Thanx a lot!
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Hello everyone

This is my first post in this forum. Klicking in right here as this seems to be the hottest subject at the current point in time when considering buying a 906 Paso...

I am a little confused about all the different tire dimesions which seem to have some future on the Paso's 16" wheels..

I once owned a 750 sport which also drives on the 16". There, the german guys had the certificate for the folowing dimensions: Front - 130/70 16" and rear 150/80 16". These two rubbers made quite some change (positiv) in the low speed handling, really.

Does anyone know whether these dimensions do fit on the Pasos as well? As I remember, the front wheel ended up with about 2cm more in diameter, the rear wheel with 4cm. The Swiss road department guys (like the TÜV in Germany) didn't care about anything concerning these dimesions.

I would be very happy for an answer, as I really want to get this 906 I discovered last week!
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don`t compare Sport and Paso, the swingarms are totally different.
There`s minimal clearance when using a 150/80 as he tire is high. Some guys modified their swingarm to fit them. I personally wouldn`t use a 150/80 as the rim is too wide for this size and I`ve heard people say that`s it`s not a good ride when really leaning into curves. Of course there are others who say different.
I`m convinced that the combination 130/70 and 180/60-16 will become the standard replacement size for the Paso as long as there are no new original size tires on the market even if this needs some modifications.

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but that can still take a bit as my bike is not yet ready to hit the road.
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hey guys!
I am also new on this site and I bought some months ago a nearly brand new Paso 906 (3.000 km on the clock - no rain - no dust - barely new) :lol: . Due to the fact that I am not that experienced in this TÜV Shit I would also need some support.
I'd like to put also the 130/70-16 and 160/70-16 on my bike, because my tires seem to be made of wood and the bike is unrideable. I would be very happy if any of you could sent me a copy of the "unbedenklichkeitsbescheinigung" for the Format or a copy of the "Fahrzeugbrief" with this changes? This would make me really happy.
Does anyone have experience with the 160/70-16 in the back? To I have to change anything on the bike? I don'T want to put a 180/60-16. I'd like to keep the bike as original as possible.

Thanks for you support.
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der ME1 CompK ist der einzige in 160/70 und der wird auch schon nicht mehr produziert. Wenn du noch einen findest ist der alt. Zudem baut der recht hoch.

the Metzeler ME1CompK is also out of production and the only tire that was 160/70. If you find one it`s old production.
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Dann sieht es wohl so aus, dass ich doch auf 180/60-16 umbauen muss.... ich kotze... würde gerne die originale Optik erhalten... Mist
Wie verhält es sich eigentlich wenn ich zwei unterschiedliche Hersteller montiere... Oder spingt mir der TUV direkt ins Gesicht? Da war doch mal was, oder?
Kann mir jemand was empfehlen?

Well! I looks like that I also have to change for 180/60-16. I'd like to keep the look original.
How does the technical authority react, if I remember well in Germany we can only use one brand on the tyres.
Any advice?

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Hab gestern meine 906 angemeldet und heut mal ne Runde um den Block gedreht. Fährt mit 10 Jahre alten Reifen wie ne Eierkiste. Geht gar nicht. :wacko:

Yesterday i got my target to drive my 906 and drove my first round testing. Runs like a Eggbox :?: Impossible! :wacko:

Zulassungs-Bescheinigung Teil 1 beinhaltet bei mir die Umrüstung auf 70er Reifen. Bringt aber eh nix, zumindest hinten. Also werd ich mal nen Conti Force 130/70 für vorne und einen 180/60 (Avon?) für hinten nehmen. (only interessting for german drivers... :mrgreen: )

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mit Mischbereifung riskierst du nur Ärger mit dem TÜV. Nimm den Avon AV45 für vorn und den AV72 für hinten. Größen wurden ja schon genannt. Eine Unbedenklichkeitsbescheinigung hab ich. Ist natürlich keine ABE dh Eintragung ist auf jeden Fall erforderlich. Nach Absprache mit dem TÜV ist das aber bei entsprechender Freigängigkeit kein Problem.
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Thanks for your quick feedback!
Avon AV 45 or VP2 sports in the front and Cobra AV 72 in the back seems to be an appopriate solution. Does someone have experience with Bridgestone BT 16 F front and G 704 in the back? It'S just because I have no experience with AVON and very good one with Bridgestone.
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