ST2 transplant process

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Slowmo
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ST2 transplant process

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Bought this old girl in Feb with 92k km on the clock, was hoping to crack 100k but was leaking/burning oil badly. I rode it nearly 4k km before doing a teardown inspection and discovered that it was quite worn internally - loose crank plug, badly pitted 3/4/5 gears, notchy mains bearings, worn exhaust valve guides. Given the low budget available for rebuild I decided to install a 2001 23k km ST2 engine instead. Currently giving that a clean up and inspection before begining the process of transplanting into the 906 frame. Will post details as I go.
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As the bike came with 41 FCR's I will be staying with those for fuel delivery.

The 3 phase alternator is going to require a better regulator/rectifier.

Ignition is going to be a bit of an experiment with the open source Speeduino ECU.

The wheels were converted to 17" by PO.
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Re: ST2 transplant process

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Will be interesting to follow.

https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/tcip/tcip.htm
Another possibility for ignition.
Has maps for Ducati.
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Thanks for the Ignitech link Gert, it is a very sensible solution but I am keen to pursue a different route (i.e. I have one in my drawer from another project). If Speeduino proves unreliable during test runs will go for Ignitech.

The service manual for the 906 has an ignition map based on MAP load. I overlaid some gridlines to create data points for the 3D ignition curve.
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Ok.
Curve 1 the most suitable for your engine.
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Spark advance settings translated from OEM Digiplex 2s curves to the Tunerstudio table.
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Is that the speeduino :?: :) :idea:
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Yes, the Speeduino is setup using the Tunerstudio software. Crank rotation is natively handled as a 5v square wave Hall effect signal, however a separate VR board can be used to process the ST2 signal. I don't have a VR board so will adaptor a ZF hall sensor instead, still reading the timing gear at 48-2 cam speed tooth pattern. Speeduino also does a tachometer output so that will help with one of the major conversion issues.
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:thumbup: cool beans
Haave an early version around here someplace :roll:
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https://bradthebikeboy.blogspot.com/201 ... r.html?m=1

Ignitech also have rev counter output.
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Inc FCR's sounds like a good score.
Is the ST2 dimensionally the same ? (Cant think why it wouldnt be )
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No the ST2 engine is wider around the swingarm pivots and the lower rear engine mount. A fair few mm of aluminium has to be milled off to make it a bolt in job.
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Unfortunately the ST2 motor was not shipped complete as expected and had to fit a flywheel afterwards. Below are dims for making your own tool if so desired, needed 270Nm to do up the nut.

Note a blind puller was used to remove the outer pivot bearings but the inner one was left inplace to guide the "width adjuster" tool.
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Nothing is more infuriating than carefully laying everything out in the morning, putting all the appropriate parts in little labelled plastic bags only to unbeknowingly drop one of the little orings - unfortunately the smallest one that was totally silent as it bounced out the garage door and out onto the sunlit driveway. Lost almost 3/4 of an hour and all of my patience retracing steps and looking under/in things for that tiny o-ring that I knew I had "put" in the bag.
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At least it's all back together now and the casing mods can start without the risk of swarf getting in the cases.....
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For those of you with machining experience please be forewarned, the following may be upsetting.

Didn't want to mount the engine in a mill nor attempt to cut freehand so have gone for a halfway house, the width adjuster tool shaft is a touch under 20mm for easy running on the inner needle rollers left inside the casing, the tip shaves the casting material nicely however chatter is "significant". Might adjust the rake of the tip once I get to the "finishing" cut.
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It's not a bad start, will measure the 906 casing extremely carefully and transfer the dims to this one and cut till the appropriate marks. If done patiently I should not need additional shims.
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One upside from having a non standard 17" rear wheel is the rear sprocket offset from centerline matches the ST2 output shaft front sprocket centerline offset.
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