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Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:45 pm
by Tamburinifan
Still lovely read, G!
How thick are the risers, 1"?
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:40 am
by paso750
yes, Gert. They are 1" high.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:03 pm
by paso750
So the electrics is finished.
I skipped one little detail though as I couldn`t solve it. Is anyone into electric puzzles ?!
The horn is activated by +12V (grey wire). The alarm has the option to connect the bikes horn but it switches only negative. To make it switching +12V you need to add a relay, that`s clear. But wired like this the horn still doesn`t work when the alarm is set off.
Obviously there`s still a problem with the ground. As next I added one cable from the horn (disconnecting the green/black wires) to the output of the alarm keeping the relay. Like this the alarm would switch +12V and negative at the same time but obviously the output of the alarm is no proper ground as the horn only makes scratching noises.
At last I disconnected the green/black connection to the horn and connected it to ground instead. The result is the horn now works when the alarm sets off but the horn won`t work when hitting the button.
I gave up. The alarm has an own siren that blows off your ears anyway.
If somebody has a suggestion let me know. I may give it another try sometime in the future.
G.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:49 pm
by streetsurfer
Maybe add a second horn, keeping them seperated? Surely there's room, as I was able to squeeze a dual trumpet air horn under there.
I am not the one to help sort out electrical glitches, sorry.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:38 pm
by higgy
Most likely you need a diode,alarms are generally a latching circuit.Pm me your details G, we can sort it out
higgy
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:19 am
by 907pasonut
G keep the circuit simple, dont use a car relay, get a miniature 12v relay the ones with the clear plastic casing, they have separate coil and switch terminals, feed a +12v to one side of the coil terminal and then the alarm output 12v neg will complete circuit (when alarm is activated), then wire the switch n/open terminals and connect across horn switch wires (from one side of switch to other side of switch) this will work and not cause any preblems

Claude
PS:actually this woudnt work as the horn is disabled when the ingnition is off, then get the +ve12v from battery to one side of N/O switch and the other side of switch to horn
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:20 am
by paso750
Claude,
do you mean like this ?
That`s what I tried but it didn`t work as there`s no direct ground connection to the horn.
streetsurfer, the alarm has an own siren and I just wanted to connect the bike`s horn also as it has the option. I wouldn`t want to add a third horn
G.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:43 am
by 907pasonut
that looks good, the ground connection to the horn?...that is permanent, are you sure that the alarm itself is wired correctly, and that the output to the horn is -ve...also does the relay have a definite click or is it not getting the right voltage?
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:48 am
by paso750
the alarm activates the relay and switches 12V to the horn. The horn doesn`t honk as the green/black wires are not connected directly to ground.
If you add a ground a fuse blows and if you replace the green/black with a ground it works, but that puts the horn switch out of function.
So my guess is the solution may require one or two diodes.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:56 am
by 907pasonut
you shouldnt require diodes, I cant see the horn on your wiring diagram is it number 14, Im not sure if the horn has a permanent -ve earth or not, if not then the miniature relay has normally 2 sets of switches, use the second n/o switch to momentarily earth the horn to complete circuit when alarm is activated.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:50 pm
by paso750
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 12:20 am
by Tamburinifan
Ever considered pods?

Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 2:16 am
by higgy
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:02 am
by paso750
not to forget the fun by worn fingertips and blisters on the thumb from endless hours of sanding.
Temperature should drop to 13°C this weekend, so off to the garage ...
G.
Re: my Paso - a never ending (love) story ...
Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 10:10 am
by higgy