907IE Ignitors - Ignition module BKL-3B

Laddie · Post by **Laddie** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:49 am

does anyone have a supply / equivalent of these that is readily available.

http://www.endless-horizons.net/efi/module.htm

None of the Europen cars listed are sold here in Australia. I'd like to make sure I can get ignitors if I need them.

I think some of the Bosch ones can be used but it would be necessary to re-wire the plug.

cheap would be nice...too...

Post by **paso750** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:54 pm

there`s not one car listed?! These are all manufacturers of electric equipment. Hella, Lucas, Ducati, Bosch, Valeo are manufacturers of ignition parts, alternators etc.

G.

PS: I know this doesn`t help - sorry for that.

Post by **paso750** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:56 pm

maybe this helps:

http://www.rgz-magnetimarelli.fr/Sezion ... 366177.pdf

... seems mostly Fiats, Lancias and an Alfa, but also Jaguar XJS or Ford Sierra Cosworth. 2 models that may roll in Australia also.

Finnpaso · Post by **Finnpaso** » Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:24 pm

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: .....

cagiva905 · Post by **cagiva905** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:46 am

If you take the list of alternative part numbers from that web page and take them to any self respecting car parts shop, they should be able to help you out.

On the links page of the efi website are also links to the websites of several manufacturers and resellers, for sure one of them will be willing to ship to Australia?

Michiel
http://www.endless-horizons.net

Tamburinifan · Post by **Tamburinifan** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:47 pm

How did you test it?
I guess there is a simple multimeter/Ohmtest f this?

Finnpaso · Post by **Finnpaso** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:31 pm

Tamburinifan wrote: I guess there is a simple multimeter/Ohmtest f this?

I think, NO! Its quite compicated elecronical part(onekind amplifier), so with multimeter it CAN be destroyed, Yes, with 9V battery feed from Ohm scale... I wouldnt do that. It function, or dont function. Sometimes those parts have sensitive components, like MOSFETs, etc, so again i would say "no" to multimeter. Sometimes they use just FETs in amplifiers, so You are warned now....

I bought some years ago such spare part to my 907 from local car spare parts shop without any problem... and not so expensive.

Tamburinifan · Post by **Tamburinifan** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 10:36 pm

OK, OK, Antti

, so how do I test it?
Newer ign coils you test w resistans.

Had a second shop test my IE circuit w Mathesis diagnose today, ECU circuit OK, and now I want to test ignition modules.

Finnpaso · Post by **Finnpaso** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 5:13 am

Tamburinifan wrote:OK, OK, Antti , so how do I test it?
Newer ign coils you test w resistans.

Coils You can test by multimeter, cause its only "wounded wire" in ohm scale, but modules are difficult to test. I can see only one 2 ways:

1. Change them via versa and see, if problem goes to another sylinder.

2. Buy such module "for spare part" and try it to failed sylinder, not so expensive. I have somewhere in my notes, what it coasted to me, but not so much. I wondered, how "cheap" it was, when i bought it. I can also look manuafacturer and code number, but remembering, that it fits also to some Italian car. I havent tested or used that my module, cause no need yet and i bought it for spare part for long distance European journeys(small piece to keep with tools).

Tamburinifan · Post by **Tamburinifan** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:51 am

OK, thx, Antti, will try switching first.

Finnpaso · Post by **Finnpaso** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:30 pm

I found more info ab. my module:

bought: 09.06.2003
price: 45€ (from local car spare part shop)
manufacturer: HUCO
ord. number: 138083 "Zyndmodul"

Hupefully this help someone.

Ps. as i told earlier, i HAVENT test it, cause no need yet!!! :laugh:

Tamburinifan · Post by **Tamburinifan** » Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:45 pm

I think, NO! Its quite compicated elecronical part(onekind amplifier), so with multimeter it CAN be destroyed, Yes, with 9V battery feed from Ohm scale... I wouldnt do that. It function, or dont function.

Is that really true, you can`t measure the coils?

Haynes manual f 91-96 6-900 says (I know, another coil):

Measure primary wiring, should be 3,-5,0 Ohm if good.
Secondary wiring, 10,6-16,2 if good.

I got 0,6-0,7 Ohm primary on both on my 907.

Question still remains: Could you or could you not measure the ignition coils on a 907?
If so, how?

Finnpaso · Post by **Finnpaso** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:48 am

Tamburinifan wrote:
Question still remains: Could you or could you not measure the ignition coils on a 907?
If so, how?

I wrote, that its easy to measure coils, Gert.... read again my mail.

BUT not so easy to check modules!

Tamburinifan · Post by **Tamburinifan** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:46 am

OK, Antti, think maybe I misunderstood.

Ignition power modules & ignition coils are of course two different things. Will try switching coils tonight.

But, have you any primare & secondary values f measuring the coils?

Finnpaso · Post by **Finnpaso** » Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:48 am

I havent measured. But U can easily check those coils from spark also. Is there spark in both plugs??? If not, then change coils and check again both sparks. If fault also change to anther plug, then surely coil is destroyed. BUT remember to "EARTH" both spark plug threads to ground with some good wire, that energy from coils can go to earth, that just it DONT destroy your coils, or ECU. I have made such spacers/nuts/wires, what i hook to spark plugs every time, when i want to check spark and same also every time after changing oil to turn engine some 30-45 seconds(in 10 second parts!) before start it really, that there is enough oil already waiting in sylinder heads for engine running, that it gets as fast as possible oil to critical places(rockers and cams)....

..Ok, I know, that only virgin(like me) do such :laugh: