Looking to buy 907ie

[058dj]

Hey guys,new to forum and thought this would be the best place to get some answers.
I have owned numerous bikes and usually purchase one every 1 to 2 years and have been doing this for many years.

The 907 has always played on my mind :wacko:and I still love the look of it even agaist more modern bikes.
I just found one for sale, photos not great, 44000 klm, red, $8000 aus. 1992 model

Can you guys confirm or answer.
(1) Rumour has it 907 better to own than 906
(2) Is the price reasonable
(3) What should I look out for eg timing belts etc
(4) Did the 907 have 17 inch wheels compared to the 906 16 inchers.
(5) what is availability of parts service and reliability of this gorgeous machine
(6) will it be capable of a good thrashing over the mountains
If I buy the 907 it is only going to be a second bike to ride on Sundays over some nice twisties etc and some club rides,then put back to bed to look good.
I am not to fussed on the handling side as eveyone rides different and what one person states is another persons nightmare.
I am well practised on suspension set up, static sag comp and damp and wil trick the 907 to suit me and for my style of riding.
Thanks again for all advise, all info is good info.

[higgy]

(1) Rumour has it 907 better to own than 906
(2) Is the price reasonable
(3) What should I look out for eg timing belts etc
(4) Did the 907 have 17 inch wheels compared to the 906 16 inchers.
(5) what is availability of parts service and reliability of this gorgeous machine
(6) will it be capable of a good thrashing over the mountains

1) Tires are widely available for the 907. 906 will need some sort of conversion.Limited solutions in 16, 17 inch conversion will cost $$$
aside from that and a few others smaller issues it is a matter of personal preferences.
2) The price point here in the US is 3500.00usd(3741aud) Low mileage higher(under 10,000) Higher mileage lower
8000aud would be a premium price verging on absurd IMHO It is what you would expect a dealer to charge with some sort of limited warranty
3) belts,electrical issues, overall wear and tear,suspension,tires and the like.
4) 907 is 17 inch wheels
5) Little support from Ducati and Vee2 is out of biz.........parts can be found but limited in availability.
6) Mountain thrashing is what Ducati's love best !!!

Much info is here,poke around for a while.........and best of luck to you

[Finnpaso]

907IE vs. 906:

907 have much better brakes
907 injection is "from other planned" compared to 906 Weber with its problems
907 dont have anykind tire problem with 17" wheels

[higgy]

907 injection is "from other planned" compared to 906 Weber with its problems

both systems have the same issue as delivered from the factory,difficult starting,largely an electrical issue
and flat spots.
both can be remedied it just takes money and time
Remedy for hard starting involves a wiring upgrade, kits are readily available and very detailed instructions can be found here to do it yourself.
Lean surges and flat spots on the Weber carb or injection are also relatively easy to fix although parts for either are getting more expensive as time passes and are in large part due to changes in the formulation of fuel over the last 20 years.
The single biggest issue with the 906 is tires. Choices in 16 inch tires at present are limited , With one exception the choices today involve changes to the driveline which if you are paying some one else to do will get very expensive quickly. If you are mechanically able and have access to a machinist or shop neither is any big deal
IMNSHO either the 906 or the 907 is a fine machine if you are the kind of rider who enjoys the challenge of upkeep on any older Machine.
Oh, and before I forget,Welcome to the very best sight for any Paso

[Finnpaso]

both systems have the same issue as delivered from the factory,difficult starting,largely an electrical issue
and flat spots.

Higgy dear, i have to put You now to "ground" with this thing and i have to say, that You are totally wrong in this thing, as i havent had EVER ANYTHING, like "difficult starting", "largely electrical issues", or ANY "flat spots" in my injected 907IE.. sorry, in BOTH of my 907IE's ! If i have had such problems in my 907IE's i would surely tell them here.... 907IE is much over 906 in those "mistakes" what factory did with 750 Paso and 906 Paso. I like very much look of 750/906 as they have 16" wheels, but all "mistakes" were fixed in 907IE. For me that 906 is worst Paso, as it have same problems, as 750 Paso, but more over it, it have awfull front brakes, as steted that 906 is much more heavier than 750 Paso, so in 750 Paso those 2 piston brakes are still acceptable(with lower bike weight), but in 906; NO anymore...

[higgy]

Antti
Neither of your 907's are stock as you have stated before they have been dyno tuned and remapped, or do you wish to state something different here and now? You are not really going to tell this future newbie that a nearly 20 year old injection system works just fine on todays fuels are you?And yes even the 907 can use an upgrade in its starter wiring. They may not have the issues to the extent of the other Paso's but improved they can be (and dinero wise they are the same,well actually it is still cheaper to fix the Weber.) The 907ie I have has both injection and starting issues. Brakes? No doubt the 907 has better brakes, But my 906 stops just fine thank you and I guarantee you My 906 runs just fine with the Weber. I'll even go as far to wager it runs better than anything you have( ){ my dicks bigger than your dick nah nah nah }

All that aside I was just attempting to give a fair and unbiased evaluation to a gentleman looking to pay 8Kaud for a 907.
Antti , My fine Finnish friend and brother of a different mother, there ain't a Paso on the planet worth 8K in my NSHO if you don't know what you are getting yourself for the dollars. Just yesterday a close friend of mine offered to relieve me of the 906 when he saw the new ( to me) 907. There ain't any way in hell I will ever sell either one, even my wife,still the love of my life will have to rip it from my cold dead fingers!

But for 8Kaud buy a multi frack the Paso!

higgy

P.S.
this is no way to welcome a future newbie,please forgive the rants

[Mc tool]

I have to agree with Higgy 8k aus $ is top dollar . It would need to be in primo condition, less than 10,000km's one owner , full service history and red . There is a907 on trade me at the mo ( trademe.co.nz ) for $8500nz but there are no takers and I think it will be there for a while at that price , does look like a good in tho. I think , in all honesty that the 907 is a better bike than the 906, but only because it fixed ( sort of ) most of the 906 issues , not because it is significantly different

[Finnpaso]

Antti
Neither of your 907's are stock as you have stated before they have been dyno tuned and remapped, or do you wish to state something different here and now? You are not really going to tell this future newbie that a nearly 20 year old injection system works just fine on todays fuels are you?

1. ONLY my older 907IE is highly tuned, this later have ONLY new CHIP(never dynoed)... Maybe You have understood wrongly.... If i have talked about my "tuned" 907IE, its that older(i have owned it longer), both are 91 modells

2. Yes, i am telling, that my 91 907IE function VERY WELL without any fuel problems caused by "new fuel". Surely injection system have to keep clean and well adjusted.. But i know also, that there in big world is huge amount of such Ducati owners, who dont take care of they marvelous machines and have suchkind problems, no matter is there injection, or weber.... Anyway such weber is designed for cars, not for motorbikes and also Ducati factory realized it and changed to injection with P7 ECU.... I would say that well tuned injection works allways better than any weber from Paso.... Its Your thing, if You want to play with weber, but that way is really not for me...

Did i comment someway price of bike? I think, no, i didint, as i am not intrested of such, especially any bike import from usa to EU area(with very high shipping and taxes, tolls, etc) and i dont have anymore space in my garage for any bike Btw, if seller and buyer are both happy for the price, its deal then.... I even didnt read how much that bike coast...

[higgy]

By the way Antti
The injection system was originally designed for the Ferrari 304GT. It was adapted to fit a motorcycle.

[persempre907]

I have to agree with Antti.
The 906 is a nice bike, but the 907 is a great improvement over the 906.
Sometimes the 907 can have some flat spot too (really, my red 907 have had some, but I guess the 2in1 Contis...), but there is no comparison between the smoothness of 907 and the rough behaviour of 906.
And that is not only my opinion.
Just reading the magazines of its age
http://ducatipaso.org/docs/907/articles_english/
They all say about the improvements of the 907 over the carbed Pasos.
Ciao

[Finnpaso]

Higgy, does it make any sense? They use already in racing cars injection in very early times before Ducati did it ....

Anyway "first" there was carburators and later injections... Can You find still carburators from MODERN cars, motorbikes? No, but only from some very cheap and crap products... Carburators are from passed times and injection is this time and i think also for future still some times...

[higgy]

Antti
Injection came first in the late 1800's and was developed by Rudolf Diesle. Carbs came after
The system used on the 907ie was developed in the late 1940's by an American at the bonneville salt flats and sold to Bosch in the mid 1950 JFYI. AT the very least you should know what it is you are saying. You can't win here,it has been my life for the last 40 years................. Weber carbs dominated racing for the better part of 50 years by the way

[Mc tool]

throttle bodies removed for clarity

Yep the ole fuel injection has certainly been around a while Antti , as you can see this a 1930's bosch mechanical injection set up on this pre war racing engine .

[persempre907]

1930's bosch mechanical injection set up on this pre war racing engine

I don't know anything about that 1930's Bosch mechanical injection and anything about that pre war racing engine.

But...
Ducati has been founded on 1946, so I don't know the war you're thinking about.
Really, that's a Pantah engine from the Castiglioni's era, seeing at the style of the "Ducati" written (so 1984 at least).
No matter, we are not discussing about the birth of the engine or the injection.
We are talking about the quality of the 907 compared to the 906.

The 907 is a most modern bike in every respect.

Really, a 906 (and any carbed bike) can work well, BUT that Weber carburettor has been perhaps the worse fitted on a Ducati and, always, the carburation granted from an EFI is more accurate in comparison with any carburettor.

Are there some doubts?

I think a future owner of a Paso has to know what he's buying.

Ciao

[Mc tool]

1930's bosch mechanical injection set up on this pre war racing engine

Ducati has been founded on 1946, so I don't know the war you're thinking about.

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