"Creaming" the tank

fredskidoo · Post by **fredskidoo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:18 pm

So I'm at the point with my tank's rusty gutts.
I live on the Pacific coast (no garage) and cleaning the tank 2
or 3 times a year is becoming futile.

Anyone share some pointers and experiences with creaming a tank?
Doing it myself is my first priority - but I am all ears.

Thxs

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higgy · Post by **higgy** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:30 pm

Had pretty good luck with CLR to clean it up and POR to seal it. After sealing it is a good idea to avoid additives in the tank like octane boosters

fredskidoo · Post by **fredskidoo** » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:59 pm

higgy wrote: it is a good idea to avoid additives in the tank like octane boosters

Now thats a whole new thread in itself - kerosene, man

. . . and here it is http://forums.ducatipaso.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4752

Foxtee · Post by **Foxtee** » Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:52 am

Used POR15 in mine last year ,so far so good no problems.
Just made some gaskets to seal the holes when I removed the filler cap, petrol tap and sender unit from the tank to slosh things around.

Post by **jcslocum** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 1:51 pm

DO NOT USE CREEM!!! That stuff is shite.

I have used POR-15 and Caswells. I liked using Caswells the best.

That's my .002

higgy · Post by **higgy** » Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:16 pm

Just finished a Norton tank been sitting in the elements since 1978

A week of CLR and rocks. 4 days to finish the POR-15.... Looks brand new

no rust or pitting

I hear good things about the caswell as well but have no personal experience

fredskidoo · Post by **fredskidoo** » Sun May 01, 2011 7:08 pm

higgy wrote:A week of CLR and rocks.

Rocks, eh?
I had a hard enough time getting the chain I was using unstuck . . .

Higgy, how long did you apply the CLR for? Does the CLR pull enough of the rust off to get the POR to stick well without rocks or chains? I really can't see how I can get the rust out in the crucial (leaking) spots short of a good sand blasting . . . I don't want to end up with a bad application of the POR plaguing me. Also, did you thin the POR and apply several layers or just 1 layer? I've read that if the POR is too thick it doesn't ever cure properly and can turn into a stringy snot in the gas.

'preciate it -

Ethan

higgy · Post by **higgy** » Sun May 01, 2011 8:53 pm

We left the CLR( 1 gallon from HomeDepot-$7) in the tank for a week,mostly due to work and weather. My buddy,who owns the Norton would shake the tank and sit it in a new position to soak every day when leaving and getting home from work.
When I saw the tank a week later it was clean as a whistle. He then rinsed it and let it dry before doing the POR-15. He did not dilute it,followed the instructions to a T. Allowed it to dry for 4 days in his basement. I stopped by on the 5th day to see how he did. It was perfect and rock hard. I was supposed to go help him finish up that Norton this weekend but the other Norton showed up and it was such a nice day...................
Ill get to it this week as I am in between jobs at the moment so have a lot of time.

fredskidoo · Post by **fredskidoo** » Sun May 01, 2011 9:40 pm

COOL - thxs!

It really nice out here on the west coast today . . .

Yes . . . that is an outhouse

Time for an afternoon ride . . . CYA

higgy · Post by **higgy** » Sun May 01, 2011 9:52 pm

Had a nice ride myself today,10 till about 2:30 down by the delaware river. me on the 907 and my bud on his 74 Commando. Lots of debris on the route to the river road but nice once we got there.

907 refused to warm up today,guess I need to fix that thermostat this week

Norton ran great

fredskidoo · Post by **fredskidoo** » Mon May 02, 2011 6:57 pm

O.K. POR it is.
Is 1 pint sufficient?
Here is a link to POR's fuel systems products:
http://www.por15.com/Fuel-System-Restor ... oducts/12/
As you can see there are many choices but I am swinging towards the simplest one http://www.por15.com/US-STANDARD-TANK-S ... tinfo/TSG/ in combination with the CLR . . .

They also stress using their "Prep & Ready" product which is 55% Phosphoric Acid. http://www.por15.com/PREP-READY/productinfo/MRG/
The CLR doesn't contain Phosphoric Acid. It contains 25% Lactic Acid and Gluconic Acid. Any reflections?

higgy · Post by **higgy** » Mon May 02, 2011 7:35 pm

He used the prep and ready kit I believe, I can call him later tonight to find out for sure.

Marine clean and Metal Prep you can get at any boat supply
I think if I had to do it again I would do the CLR,marine clean, Metal prep and the sealer.

Get anywhere on the Kawi?

fredskidoo · Post by **fredskidoo** » Mon May 02, 2011 9:03 pm

higgy wrote:Get anywhere on the Kawi?

BLLAARRGGGG!!

Can't seem to get my heart into it . . . could be that I've already got an Italian girl . . .

Any thoughts on this other post of mine:
http://forums.ducatipaso.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=4789

Cheers

higgy · Post by **higgy** » Mon May 02, 2011 9:33 pm

I know the post you are talking about,have not found it again so far

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